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The original was posted on /r/dota2 by /u/Bouldos on 2025-06-15 17:06:26+00:00.
Okay… for real… this is my last post on the topic (probably). But when reality hands you a perfect mirror, I had to post again.
Remember our situation? (for those who missed the 'Reddit Drama' (not mine, Gorgc stream) )
We (Waffle Warriors) got disqualified from the EWC WEU Open Qualifier for being on time—because our opponents, Yellow Submarine, were playing another qualifier and couldn’t make it. We couldn’t reschedule due to jobs and life, so we were removed. The admin said we “lacked intent to qualify.” Full story: here
Now let’s look at what just happened with Virtus pro at the CCT Series 2.
Spot the difference:
| | Waffle Warriors vs YS | Virtus pro vs Team Next level or vs OneMove | |
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| | Was one team double-booked? | ✅ Yellow Submarine | ✅ Virtus pro | | Did they show up on time? | ❌ YS partially did (3 out of 5) | ❌ VP didn’t | | Did they ask to reschedule? | ✅ Admin tried to reschedule | ❌ VP just forfeited | | Was reschedule forced? | ✅ Yes | ❌ No | | Was the team present punished? | ✅ Yes | ❌ No | | Was the rulebook followed? | ✅ Yes - by the overruling rule | ✅ Yes - by the written rule |
So let’s get this straight:
VP couldn’t make both events (TI CQ and CCT Series 2).
They chose one so they forfeit the other. No drama. No bending. No judging “intent.” to the other team. No rescheduling waiting the end of CQ or next day.
Yellow Submarine couldn’t make both events. We were disqualified because we couldn't wait 8 hours or play next day.
We showed up. They didn’t.
Maybe there’s already been some impact from all the discussion. A little ripple. A silent win for Waffle Warriors? I’ll take it.
Thanks for reading—and for the record, we still just want amateur teams to get the same basic fairness that pros get. And we just wanted to play Doto. That being said, imma play some ranked :)
Snook'
Manager – Waffle Warriors
