Reddit Migration

Reddit shockingly restored all the comments I deleted via PowerDelete Suite a while ago. If Reddit will do their damnedest to keep my content against my will, I'll do what I can to still change it and protest.

I'm taking that as a chance to instead replace most of my non-useful comments via the same tool with the following open letter. That way in the future if anyone comes across my content, rather than see a (deleted) or a suddenly empty post which could be unhelpful and frustrating, maybe the message I leave will provide some context and information for future Reddit visitors considering to use that platform (or stumbling across my posts via Google searches). So feel free to use this template too. I think a bunch of us leaving behind something for future Internet historians would be helpful at least until Reddit stops being a thing completely a la Digg.

"I removed most of my Reddit contents in protest of the API changes commencing from July 1st, 2023. This is one of those comments.

This decision has widespread implications such as making it more difficult for moderators to manage their subreddits, more likely for spam to enter subreddits, more difficult for blind users to access Reddit, more difficult for anyone to see NSFW content and many other negative consequences. Most third party applications are now gone due to the extortionate new pricing being unaffordable for developers despite widespread outrage from the community.

CEO Steve Huffman's awful leadership through the lackluster AMA and a press junket tour aggressively defending the situation insisting nothing will be changed, saying he'll modify the moderator rules to kick out protesters and force subreddits to reopen, demonstrates humongous contempt for the Reddit community that makes and manages Reddit's entire content library in the first place. Accusing a developer of blackmail and then completely ignoring all post pointing out how this is a lie with evidence - alongside other lies related to the API - is wild too.

I'm now using alternative community platforms like Kbin and Lemmy. Reddit's revenue comes from my posts. If that is how they wish to treat our community, they don't deserve my content any more.

This could have been easily avoided if Reddit chose to negotiate the API changes with their moderators, third party developers and the community their entire company is build around into a more reasonable middle ground. They have not.

RIP Reddit 2005-2023. You were Digg 5.0. So long and thanks for all the fish."

Gaming, news, tech, general literature. All of these are somewhat thriving, with a steady influx of posts and comments. At the same time, the userbase is sorely lacking for more niche communities. In my case it'd be stuff like poetry, yoga, religion, linguistics, meditation. Or many other communities I'd doubt they'd form a larger userbase here, at least to the degree that it'd foster good discussions. Communities where there are a larger amount of "normal people", that are not tech-aware, and who have no interest in migrating off centralized corporate solutions. That just want a large space to discuss what they're interested in.

This for me at least, makes it hard to completely leave reddit (or even Facebook and their groups!). Do you think the fediverse will ever reach the point where this would become a non-issue?

Find your next diving spot. A list of subreddit alternatives on different platforms.

Up until the previous version I could fly through the feed with the power of my 120hz display.

Now it just lags and feels like 10fps when scrolling.

Holy Hell!

a small difference, but important to how people use the site

PSA: while upvoting exists, to get the "move closer to the top" effect that reddit's upvote had, you need to click boost

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Think about things from the point of view of someone who has never used Reddit or the fediverse, but you've heard about them both from recent news articles and want to see what they are about.

Reddit:- You Google Reddit and your first result is Reddit.com. You click the link and are presented with the front page. You from scroll from a few hours and end up signing up and staying.

Lemmy:- You Google Lemmy and your first result is a wiki article for Lemmy Kilmister... Your second result might be join-lemmy.org, which you're smart enough to realise it's probably more likely what the news is about.

You click join-lemmy.org and are presented with a page of information about the fediverse, links to set up a server and pictures of code...

There is very little chance you're going to investigate further.

If we want the fediverse to replace Reddit then either
A) Lemmy needs to improve its initial impression and Search engine optimization
B) We should be promoting a different platform with a better initial first impression.

I'd recommend kbin personally as it gives the same sort of experience as Reddit from the initial interaction.

Fake internet points. Karma. Whatever you call it... does Lemmy have the equivalent? There is an undeniable motivator in trying to earn more karma as a badge of honor.

Other things like badges to "earn", and you have a silly but valid social award system for pushing people to contribute content.

Does Lemmy have any of this?

Account was from 2011 with almost 5000 comments.

I am still unsure how to proceed now. At least gonna edit my comments before deleting my profile.

Still think it would be fun if one of the powerdelete suits could just bloat up every comment to max length with nonsense using GPT

As a victim of domestic violence who has spent years online trying to help other victims, Reddit's act of undeleting several of my deleted comments just made me have to go through and manually delete. In the process, I had to relive a huge chunk of trauma.

I'm not feeling okay right now.

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Infinity app is still working for me? Is it the same for anyone else? I'm loading by new and I'm still getting new posts.

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For the last few weeks we enjoyed a much better content on kbin than we had on reddit for a long time.

But it is coming to an end as more and more people will be leaving reddit for kbin. With them the trolls, the spammers and the ultrapoliticized americans. They want to push their ideology and there are legions of them.

Even though kbin is not american anymore, the sheer numbers and obsession of american people with their politics will quickly outnumber any other content here. The voting system will make your post about pertinent news sink to the bottom of the frontpage. Lost under the "Trump he said/she said" routine. The same thing that happened on reddit will happen on kbin: people will come for the politics and then spread in others magazines for a quick, uninteresting meme reply.

The articles on the web are still designed to infuriate the readers, so they react and create free ragecontent, and they will do it here. They will get infuriated here, just the same as they did on reddit. This mechanics hasn't changed by changing platform.

The NSFW content is coming, the political memecontent is coming, making the idea of federating this instance with any respectable other pole of interest impossible. If we are to name the federations, this one will become the greentext type of federation. Not a dangerous anarchist federation but certainly a pariah one.

That's why if you really are interested into discussing with people, you would be very well inspired to do it on another instance than kbin.social. Do it on a local instance, where the news are directed by people of your geographical region. Your default instance can only be a regional one, I can't see a global instance like "kbin.social" being not raided by americans with a political agenda. But they won't step a foot in madrid.social or berlin.social. In a sense it's even better if kbin.social can polarize and hold the kind of population which is hypnotized by number and popularity. The right usage of the fediverse should be to pick a local instance near you and only subscribe to niche magazines in different instances based on your specific needs.

The fediverse project will be tested with very high numbers of users now, and I don't think that the implicit federation model which is to accept everything by default and block some will survive the waves of political trolls. The federations will split and specialize, and will defederate en masse. The most sought after federations will become the technology ones, which will probably become picky on the creation of random magazines, like news and politics, since it attracts the worst in content creators. The kbin.social experiment will lead to a more strict moderation model in other instances and probably different way to count votes. I don't think that kbin.social will ever come back from being a perpetual testbench of a social platform.

So don't fall in love with your account on kbin, instead you should get ready to jump to another instance which will inevitably open on a server near you.

Gotta say, kbin.social is looking more like what I wanted from Reddit in the first place than Reddit does.... I may be dropping that account soon.

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There's a heap of devs working on bug fixes and improvements to the kbin.social website. If you run into a bug or find something strange, it would be great if you can report it on codeberg.

With third party apps going away, I'm expecting an influx of new people who will join kbin.social over the next few weeks. The project has taken shape rapidly and it's exciting to see the progress that's been made.

I've been working through a range of UI/UX issues focusing on mobile but any reports, along with images or use cases are super handy to people looking at the issues list.

r/pics is wide open to all kinds of anti reddit posts, calls for spez to resign, whatever you want with the current rules right now.

all it takes is John Oliver be featured in the image and title and you're free to post anything (but no porn or gore). go nuts!

the sub is in open rebellion and the mods don't delete critical posts. they even allowed a post calling out spez' history with child porn, to hit the frontpage of r/all! until an admin spotted it and had it removed. let that sink in.

it's because the mods don't act anymore, unless an admin tells them to, and by the time the admin sees a post on the frontpage, the damage is already done. it's malicious compliance from the users and mods! if your title doesn't trigger any bad words, the admins have no idea what's in your post until it's too late.

pics has 30 million subscribers and 8k are online. it's massive, and they upvote stuff to the frontpage, easily. some examples:

https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/85183/r-pics-calls-out-spez-history-as-jailbait-moderator-a-former

https://old.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/14k8ul7/thank_you_john_oliver_for_protecting_my_post_from/

but the mods can't post the critical content themselves! they need others to do it, so they can turn a blind eye. that's how this works, it's a coop game 😤🤝😤

Honestly, nobody even looks at other people's Karma. I didn't care much about it. Did people really care so much baout Karma that they mourn about it here, or miss it, or used to farm it?

Sorry if the tone sounds judgemental, but I'm just wondering.

As we start to see more users join, it's inevitable to see trolls (especially low-effort trolls) making more of an appearance and trying to be controversial and noticed.

Best just to scroll past them. They want to spark unwinnable arguments and rack up negative rep. If something seems absurdly ridiculous or inciteful, just move on. It's not even worth down voting.

I created this simple Android app so that I could view the kbin.social in a dedicated browser.

It's not a dedicated app like, for example, is RIF for Reddit, it's simply a dedicated browser for kbin.social: once you open the app you will see the kbin.social site as you would see it in any browser.

I created this app for myself, because I wanted to interact with the kbin.social site in a browser other than the default browser on my phone, and I am sharing it in case it might be useful to others.

You can get the code and the apk from github: https://github.com/anemomylos/shell4kbin

Reddit admins appear to be removing links to Lemmy instances posted in comments.I'm seeing quite a few "[Removed by Reddit]" comments in /r/RedditAlternatives this evening. Anybody else seeing their comments being manipulated by Reddit staff today?

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Not sure how I feel about this tbh, fair play if that's what he wants to do. I don't think it will make me stay with reddit. The community feel of lemmy and kbin is making me finally enjoy contributing again. Towards the end with reddit it felt so... Pointless.

Reddit seems to restrict posting so much in different subs that freedom of thought is impacted. One has to think if the post is within not only Reddit rules, but the special rules in the sub, and one had to make the title and post Reddit specific in style (simple, punny, meta).
And if one happened to post a topic that was really good or great, a mod sometimes deleted the post anyway with a vague explanation.... and then you see the post appear by that same mod with slightly different wording as it was their own. Call them out on it and you were muted, and sometimes even banned.
If one had a dissenting opinion on a topic, and brought forth a compelling argument, automatically the post was downvoted by the hive-mind and no discussion took place.

They called themselves the front page of the Internet. I found the doors closed and locked and all the pens out of ink.

cross-posted from: https://vlemmy.net/post/388759

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Is there a way to upload multiple images on kbin? Similar to how you would do it for Reddit?

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