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[–] mr_satan@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Wouldn't max value for 8 bit (unsigned) integer be 255? Like the number has 256 distinct values, but that includes 0.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If this is about a counter for users in the chat, sure. But if this is an array of users indexed by an 8-bit number, then it will fit 256 slots with the first slot being numbered 0.

[–] mr_satan@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Fair, sounds reasonable

[–] josefo@leminal.space 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Unless it's lua, then screw anyone programming with it.

Have to use lua for my current project and the 1-based indexing is really screwing with me.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Right but having a group chat of size 0 isn’t very useful.

[–] khapyman@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not to be snarky, in programming there's rarely (in situations like this) a reason to keep count. Computers are exceptionally good at counting integers so they'd just count individual client id's (however they've implemented that system), not keeping toll on how many clients are in a group chat.

So one client, be it at position zero is a one client group. Add another client at position one and you have two clients and a two person group.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

I don't think it's the variable for counting the number of us in a group that's the issue here. There'll be some internal tracker that gives everyone in the chat group a local ID probably for the purposes of ensuring that everyone stays in sync.

If you leave the group and then go into a different chat group you'll probably have a different number in that group because the internal counter is specific to the chat, not to the user ID which will be a unique ID used across all interactions for that phone number.

[–] mr_satan@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] owsei@programming.dev 16 points 1 week ago

one person, and 255 would represent 256 people

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

The first index

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

The limit isn't on the actual count of people, it's likely the size of the chat user id number.

[–] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And programmers usually start counting at 0.

[–] mr_satan@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago

Your thinking indexing, 0 is still 0 when counting.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago

The number of distinct values are what matters.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago

You're thinking of the highest integer number, not the "number of numbers" - which is 256, from 0 to 255, and thus 256 possible users in a group chat.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

Computers start counting at zero, (unless it's python) so the first person in the group would be ID 0, the second person would be ID 1