Chronic Illness
A community/support group for chronically ill people. While anyone is welcome, our number one priority is keeping this a safe space for chronically ill people.
This is a support group, not a place for people to spout their opinions on disability.
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Be excellent to each other
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Absolutely no ableism. This includes harmful stereotypes: lazy/freeloaders etc
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No quackery. Does an up-to date major review in a big journal or a major government guideline come to the conclusion you’re claiming is fact? No? Then don’t claim it’s fact. This applies to potential treatments and disease mechanisms.
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No denialism or minimisation This applies challenges faced by chronically ill people.
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No psychosomatising psychosomatisation is a tool used by insurance companies and governments to blame physical illnesses on mental problems, and thereby saving money by not paying benefits. There is no concrete proof psychosomatic or functional disease exists with the vast majority of historical diagnoses turning out to be biomedical illnesses medicine has not discovered yet. Psychosomatics is rooted in misogyny, and consisted up until very recently of blaming women’s health complaints on “hysteria”.
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If your Dutch they will tell you to take paracetamol for 2 weeks and make a new appointment if you still have the same problem.
Dutch medicine is the worst, man. They will Google symptoms in front of you and just treat those, no thinking of the bigger picture.
I go abroad to visit doctors now.
Unless you're close to death they won't put any effort into diagnosis but once you actually get diagnosed the treatment in the Netherlands is pretty good.
The healthcare system suffers from years of budget cuts, bad working conditions and our education system being gradually demolished.
meanwhile i have multiple friends who moved from America to the Netherlands to get their medical issues actually treated
From my experience in Germany, getting a proper diagnosis is often the hard part; I think that may actually be easier in the USA, US doctors have clear economic incentive to diagnose you with something and either way a diagnosis is usually much cheaper than the treatment.
Plus, even if I knew my issues would be treated in another country, I'd have great difficulty migrating there - it's a very specific subset of ill people who are desperate enough to migrate to a different country but still able enough, and wealthy enough, to actually go through with it.
You might think but I bet the diagnosis in America is more expensive then the treatment somewhere else...
From the perspective of health insurances, it depends; pills can be pretty cheap, but surgery is usually expensive. I don't think psychotherapy comes cheap, either.