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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 days ago (6 children)

This is actually pretty interesting. Russians are typically more tech savvy than you would expect. A factory full of them and this still happened.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 days ago

There are Russians who are more tech savvy than you would expect, but in average they're just like the rest.

One would expect that in Russia, like everywhere, the kind of people hired to manage the IT infrastructure in most companies are not the "hacker elite" (unless the company gets one purely by luck)

The only shocking thing here is that a military manufacturer - which one would expect to try a bit harder to find the kind of systems manager that can harden their internal systems - seems to have not properly hardenned/segregated their systems.

Then again, maybe they're not totally incompetent and do have their mission critical stuff air-gapped and the damage done by the Ukranian hackers is less impactful than the headline implies. From the outside it's hard to tell.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

they are good at hacking and spreading propaganda via troll farms, putin probably employs more of them than other countries do,.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Russians are typically more tech savvy than you would expect.

Well, as someone living in Russia, I don't really feel this so much

[–] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

This shouldn’t be relevant but actually yea, ax has a good point. Plenty of people don’t really understand things that aren’t part of a big brand online.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago

than you would expect.

The cause might be somewhere in your expectations...

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Their need to be more tech savvy is to avoid paying high taxes on electronics, so they have to cobble together working machines from spare parts.

They are good at getting things working, but they are not good at getting them working well.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

it depends if the one that's tech savvy enough to prevent that it's paid enough for his job, or if the money allocated for that went to fund the yacht holidays of some general