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Are these even legal in Europe (the part that is not the UK...)?
I'm no expert, but I believe this is down to the individual member states.
In my country (the NL) it is technically not allowed to film the public street with an automated camera, which effectively makes Ring and equivalents illegal to install in most places
Practically this is not really enforced though, so you see them everywhere anyway.
It's indeed not enforced here, but on top of that the police would really like to know that you have cameras filming public space.
Not so they can do something about it, but so they know they can come to you to ask for footage if something happens.
Turn off the motion sensor and only use the push activation, that wouldn’t break the “auto” recording portion. There’s always exemptions, security and law professionals wouldn’t be left without a way to assist themselves.
I think yes, as long as it only sees within your private property.
Front yards don’t have the expectation of privacy… that applies to backyards doesn’t it?
If your front yard is public property, you can't constantly record it, simple.
Front yards aren’t…
And you can’t record a public street for security? Even if it’s deleted? That makes absolutely no sense, how would you ever catch a crime?
Individuals can apply for registration of a fixed camera which must be approved by the privacy agency of the state. If it is approved, you can film into public space, but normally this comes with rules like the anonymization of visible faces and car plates when you are a normal citizen.
Without doing this you are allowed to place a camera for constant monitoring at a fixed place if it films your private property only.
For normal businesses the same rules apply, although you might get a camera approved which watches the area around your entry/exit easier.
Those rules made dashcams illegal in most of the EU, but legislation has caught up in those cases in a few countries - but not all yet.
How do we catch a crime without cameras recording everything all the time? That is your question?
No, I’m asking you. Because you seem to be applying the law to stuff it doesn’t apply to, so I’m trying to figure out your knowledge on it, so we can figure out where you went wrong.
And who said ALL the time, security cameras use motion, or a host of other tech to not record all the time and NOT store it. So which law do you think is being broken?
You are asininely saying that if I took a picture of someone throwing something on my house, that would be inadmissible because the street was in it…? Is that what you think the law is doing here…?
Why wouldn't they be? Is it illegal to record people without their permission in the EU or something? Clueless American here.
Yes, with fix mounted cameras. You can walk around and record with your phone etc though.
You cannot permanently record public places and you may not publish recordings of people (as in them being the main content in the video) without their consent. A temporary recording or live stream should be pretty much a non-issue, especially if you don't do anything with it other than watching it.
By "permanently record" you mean "keep the footage forever"? Security camera systems usually record on a loop, I doubt this one will be any different. They don't want to manage all that storage anyway.
Permanent as in "not just for a few seconds when someone rings the bell".