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[–] Afaithfulnihilist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Terminal velocity for a human is not fast enough to cause air to heat up. You'd probably get frostburn instead.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 days ago

If you're jumping from a space station then you'd be traveling at orbital velocity when hitting the atmosphere which is plenty fast enough to generate heat.

Heating on reentry is actually due to compressing the air in front of you, not friction. Falling from orbitall height will absolutely cause you to heat up the air in front of you, even as the air paassing you by is doing you no harm.

Though, if you smash into the atmosphere at orbital speeds, it's probably going to do you some harm as it tries to force you back down to TV.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Hold up. Didn’t some guy drop balls off a roof to show that things fall at the same speed?

[–] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So, yes and no. Acceleration due to gravity impacts all objects equally. With no air resistance, on earth, everything speeds up at 9.8m/s/s. But, that "no air resistance" is a big asterisk. This is why, say, parachutes work. It's also how we get terminal velocity. Often misinterpreted as "how fast you'd have to go to die from a fall" it's actually "how fast you need to go before the drag from your air resistance is a force greater than or equal to gravity"

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Right. That all makes sense. So the air resistance is what is also causing it to heat up. I still don’t see why a person wouldn’t do that.

[–] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So, multiple options here. Skydivers regularly hit terminal velocity, as fast as they'll go in atmosphere, before pulling their chutes. At these speeds, heat from friction isn't enough to worry about. Once again though, if you're coming down from space, that "in atmosphere" asterisk goes away. If you're dropping from a satellite, you're going at speeds necessary to orbit, and you don't have anything slowing you down until you hit the atmosphere. Suddenly your terminal velocity is way lower than infinity, and the friction you're feeling from the atmosphere is INTENSE, rapidly turning that speed into heat

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago

Alight cool. All basically what I figured. Thanks!

[–] psud@aussie.zone 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I recently had this explained to me, terminal velocity is falling versus the force of the air pushing back on you, right? In vacuum you just keep accelerating, in atmosphere the air pushes back against you falling, limiting your speed

That force follows the rule that force (of air pushing back) is equal to acceleration (9.8m/s/s) times mass

So different weights fall at different speeds.

Half of the replies to me when I said what you said were

Idiot, f=ma

Or similar

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well sure but I don’t think a human is shaped in a way that would really affect this.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Never seen a sky diver? Head down vs belly flop changes their speed

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Still won’t stop you from eventually reaching the same speed tho.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago

...yes it will.

Terminal velocity occurs when the forces pulling ng you and pushing back at you are in balance. The drag force is a lot higher when you're a larger profile. The balancing will occur sooner