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Senator Jeanne Shaheen just threw the minority leader under the bus.

Senator Jeanne Shaheen revealed that Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer knew the entire time about the plan for a few Democrats to capitulate to Republicans on the government shutdown.

Shaheen, one of the seven Democrats (and one independent) who dropped their demand for a guaranteed extension of Obamacare subsidies, spoke to Fox News’s Brian Kilmeade on Monday morning.

Aside from serving as further proof that the Democrats are failing to act as an opposition party in any meaningful way, Shaheen’s comments also reveal one of two possible scenarios. Either Schumer was scheming to end the shutdown behind the scenes, only pretending to be against it while pinning the blame on the eight people who aren’t up for reelection anytime soon, or he has no control over his party. Either way, it proves the need for Democrats to jettison the minority leader.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 74 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Billionaires are desperate to turn people away from the Dem party, because they can't buy the next Dem presidential primary.

You're pissed at Schumer? Good, he's a giant ineffectual piece of shit

But now that he doesn't have a corrupt DNC behind him, his days in office are numbered. So are the rest of the neoliberals and especially the ones who voted with republicans.

Don't blame the party for what single digit number of assholes did. And definitely don't leave the party by refusing to vote in Dem primaries.

Even if there's nothing that could ever make you vote D in the general again, vote in every D primary and pull them left as hard as you can.

The only way neoliberals get the DNC back, is if people don't vote in the next Dem presidential primary, a neoliberal squeaks thru, and if they become president, they name a neoliberal chair.

And neoliberals aren't above sabotaging the Dem party to get the reins back.

It like the buy/sell ads for gold...

When billionaire owned media shits on the Dem party, it means the DNC is against billionaires.

When billionaire owned media supports the Dem party, it's because they own it

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago

THE DNC DOES NOT WANT TO OPPOSE THE GOP

Otherwise they would have their canidates oppose them in a meaningful way. They wouldn't support right wing ideologies.

ffs

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

And neoliberals aren't above sabotaging the Dem party to get the reins back.

You can say that again

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 13 points 3 days ago

Oh it's another givesomefucks pro-Ken Martin comment.

Ken Martin is not an anti-establishment DNC chair, he is a continuation of their same policy. He is in his own words happy to take money from 'good billionaires' - those same influential donors who run the party.

When billionaires pay for the party, it means the DNC is for billionaires.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Its not single digit. If 8 guys sold out there are way more behind them.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Oh, we need to clean house...

We need a competitive primary for every office, every election.

With no favoritism towards an incumbent, just because they're already there.

Primaries only hurt weak candidates, because they're already weak candidates. And weak candidates can't win a fair primary.

So we're all better off if they lose in the primary so a Dem can still win the general.

[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

Well said, we need to work with those who support us and cut out the bootlickers.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

This is exactly it. I don't think people understand how thick it is with the right trolling the left. Trolling is kind of an innocent word for it, because it has really shitty consequences.

If you're skeptical, notice how when the right does something evil, outlandish and cruel, that there will be unnaturally quick upvoted comments going after the dems and blaming them. This isn't a coincidence.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I generally agree, but part of the reason Schumer can't whip votes is that he no longer controls the DNC.

He can't direct DNC money towards the candidates that vote the way he wants, and he can't direct money to their opponents to punish them when they break ranks.

I think this would be good for democracy, in the same way that anti-gerrymandering laws are good for democracy. ... You know, except when.