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A 13-year-old student was expelled from a Louisiana middle school after hitting a male classmate who she said created and shared a deepfake pornographic image of her, according to her family’s lawyers.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 30 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

There are the obvious comments about trump being a pedo and all but I think there is also another subject at play here

The US loves to apply zero tolerance policies. Thesr sound impressive, "zeeerroooo tolerance, we will do everything to stop the bad guy!" But in reality it's just virtue signalling without doing anything about the real problem.

Zero tolerance policies make it that the institution doesn't have to deal with any real problems. A student is a potential problem? Expel them, arrest them, get rid of them. This way, you don't have to deal with anything and fuck that student, who cares about them?

A 12 year girl writes on her desk that she likes a clasmate? Arrest her with handcuffs and all and throw her in jail. (True story)

A girl doesn't do her homework? Send her to something that effectively is a jail. Why spend time to support her, try to figure out what are the causes behind her problems? Just get rid of it. Eto tolerance, baby!

Somebody at school or work get bullied forever and finally snaps and hits back? Investigating WHY would take up resources, time, effort, it would cost money that can go to the shareholders and the CEO. Just fire that person, problem gone. That the bullies remain is not a problem, who cares about that? That that, over time, makes ymthe environment in your organization more and more toxic is not your problem.

I see all these US mass shootings done by young kids and young adults, and I just wonder. I know that the easy access to guns is an enormous issue that a handful of assholes don't want to fix, but these zero tolerance policies too have a lot of influence on this, I think.

The USA needs to start dealing with their problems instead of just expelling and jailing every person who has a problem

[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

As a heavily bullied person and severely abused kid at home, the Zero Tollerance policy never helped us even when we protected ourselves.

Also to anyone who says "what about CPS?" they came to our house quite often and were bribed just as much (use imagination)

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 27 minutes ago (1 children)

Preach. I almost got suspended for being punched in the face, because the school logged me as "being in a fight" and considered that evidence I'd broken a rule. My assailant was straight up walking down the hall and shoving anyone in his way, eventually deciding to punch me because I didn't move aside fast enough. But because I was the only one who complained to a Vice Principle (and because his parents had enough money and influence in the school to make things ugly), school admin effectively tried to extort me into retracting the complaint.

Took six months and multiple hearings, along with a threat of lawsuit, to eventually get the school admins to reverse their decision.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 2 points 16 minutes ago

Yeah my schools had the same zero tolerance policy when I was a child. Say an 80s level sociopathic bully beats up a much younger kid, both would get suspended. That way the school can't discriminate against a child if they discriminate against every child. The school did something and it can't possibly be discrimination, doesn't matter that it makes school worse for every kid, the school board covered their ass.

[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago

Schools don't actually want to solve the problem of bullying, because doing so would involve charging the parents of bullies.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 5 points 6 hours ago

Your proposed actual investigations and solutions would solve more shootings than gun control... but some gun laws wouldn't hurt, either.

[–] minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

These are all the principles America was founded and built upon though. Modern interpretations to the same document.