Social media needs to be as easy as possible if you're going to reach the masses. Most people do not give a shit enough to create 3 accounts; they'll just leave.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's just fine with me. Quality > quantity

Some of the best forums I use have just a handful of active users

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

But quantity and quality are linked. If only, say, 0.1% of people will post high quality content, that means you need to attract a thousand people to get a high quality poster. You can't just put up a sign that says "high quality posters only". Plenty of quality posters also want an audience, so they'll go where the people are and leave if that audience isn't there.

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago

This. I love reddit r/askhistorians and r/askphilosophy. But the vast fkn majority of people are not qualified to answer historical or philosophical questions. In these cases you need a lot of people on the site.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ok, and I'll go where I like the most people I like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I left reddit for many reasons. I don't want most of those people here.

So, to be blunt, I don't care

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Cutting out huge swaths of users at once just stifles the content including the small percentage of actually quality content. You can't pick out and keep the good stuff when you cut off whole instances. It also brings down the engagement in your own content.

Take your favorite small forum and now split it according to political opinion, now split it again according to if users pirate movies(lol). Your forum is now dead since no one likes speaking into the void.

We should be treasuring the connections, not putting up walls because it makes the circle jerk easier.

[–] Clanket@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm high as fuck right now

[–] SomeoneElse@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m high as fuck AND on three instances rn. I win, right?

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago

You don't win Lemmy until you have an account on every public instance!

Also, I'm slightly high, but "as fuck" would be a major exaggeration on my part

[–] Doug@midwest.social 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't get it either. Defederation is a tool just like banning or spam prevention. If it's unused it's pointless to have.

But you don't ban everyone for a single offense just like to don't defederate lightly. If you do then people will move elsewhere and the problem resolves itself

[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

I've said it before and I'll say it again: If instances weren't supposed to be ever defederate, then we wouldn't have the tool. In the absence of real moderation/admin tools it's going to get used more frequently. And that's the admin owner's right!

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Too many people never used forums and think every site needs to talk to every site.

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Forums died for a reason. Reddit took over that space for me because it was one place to see everything. Federation is a better version of that. Decentralized and connected is how the Internet should be

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reddit took over because threading on forums was awful. The centralization was just a nice bonus imo.

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I added the 'for me' to curb the pedants, but it seems you still found your way. Your experience doesn't invalidate mine, sorry.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Sorry I missed that. My bad. Fwiw I agree. I like having all my gaming subs grouped together.

[–] Kalcifer@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I would say that a big part of the issue is the difficulty in transferring one's account. Ignoring the fact that one simply can't transfer their posts, trying to manually copy all previously subscribed communities to a new account is a rather tedious task. I am aware that there exists scripts that can automate that process, but I don't think that it's fair to expect that the userbase should run 3rd party scripts. Until account transfer is properly implemented, defederation will continue to be a major issue.

[–] ZiemekZ@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

The migration must be perfect, which means posts, comments and up/downvotes from the source instance must appear as if they've always been on the target instance.

[–] Dinodicchellathicc@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I think the best part of the fed is that you can see ALL the content from the other instances. I personally feel like its what the internet is supposed to be.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

I just use one, but AFAICT they don't defederate, they haven't even defederated anyone on their mastodon instance and that's had a lot longer to have all manner of inter-instance bullshit develop.