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[–] Hypx@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

FCEVs are nearly PHEVs already. Battery powered for (very) short ranges and hydrogen for longer range. A PHEV version is just one with a bigger battery.

The current price of green hydrogen is already cheap enough to justify itself as a fuel. It is just distribution that is the issue.

It will be much cheaper to move hydrogen around than electricity. Pipelines are cheaper than wires after all. The cost of upgrade the grid and putting a charging point everywhere will be in the trillions of dollars. Many times more expensive than what it would take to have hydrogen stations replace gas stations.

The BEV over FCEV argument, as a near-term solution, is quickly running out of steam. It is similar to when several car companies were stuck promoting diesel cars just when the BEV began showing up. It will be the same story. People are desperately asking for an EV that can be a one-to-one replacement for their current car. As a result, the arrival of FCEVs will happen sooner than what many expect.

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I doubt building hundreds of kilometers of leak proof pipeline, for the smallest atom in existence (no less than that) would be that cheap. If you have data on that you are welcome to post them.

On the other hand we already got a pretty robust infrastructure for electricity transport (except maybe for Texas, but that's another whole story), and adding more isn't that hard. Take some copper or anything conductive, make a cable out of it, install on a pylon or underground, and you are set.

[–] Hypx@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Hydrogen pipeline are cheaper than wires and they don't leak either. You are just repeating marketing BS from competing industries. Hydrogen molecules aren't even the smallest. Helium is the smallest since it is a nobel gas and not a diatom.

Pipelines are made of steel. They are much cheaper than copper wires. In reality, your idea is much more expensive from an infrastructure point of view.