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Thread update: Prigozhin's fucking dead.

rip-bozo


The BRICS summit will begin on Tuesday and end on Thursday, with various world leaders, politicians, and representatives meeting in Johannesburg, South Africa.

America's anxiety about the summit has been obvious. They have been complicating the event by pushing for the arrest warrant for Putin to be upheld if he steps foot in the country. While this is a remarkably dangerous and unhinged thing to do - even by America's standards - to the leader of a nuclear superpower who could end the world within an hour, it does betray their desperation. Unfortunately, for those of us who wanted to see Putin surrounded by an army of security guards fending off people holding handcuffs, he has sent his Foreign Minister, Lavrov, in his place. Additionally, America has likely been spreading rumors about the lack of interest in gaining new members in the organization.

With apparently 20 countries formally seeking membership and another 20 informally doing so, the bloc has been elevated, whether they like it or not, to the position of the international vanguard of the non-western world. It is extremely important to say that this is not the same as it becoming an anti-American bloc, and many of them (including original members Brazil and India) wish to keep a friendly relationship with the United States. Nonetheless, with the United States' policy of "if you are not with us, you are against us," and as the US seeks to weaken China, in coming years many of them might find themselves under hostile pressure.

BRICS has to try and solve many problems if they are going to chip away at America's stranglehold of the world economy. These problems - like mitigating the dollar's status as a global reserve currency, and America's dominant role in the world economy - are extremely complicated, and will takes years, even decades, to be overcome. Therefore, one should temper their expectations and excitement for this summit. It took tens of millions of deaths in cataclysmic wars, and then several more decades, for America to reach its current position. I see no reason to believe why its downfall will be any less bloody and elongated.

To end on a less depressing note, I've been searching for appropriate anagrams given the list of countries that seek to join BRICS. Obviously not all of them will make it in, but even so. The best I've come up with is HIBISCUS EMANCIPATES BBBBKKRVV.

(also, "bulletins and news discussion" can be rearranged to "libidinous newsstands uncles".)


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

This week's first update is here in the comments.

This week's second update is here in the comments.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[–] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (4 children)

via Mango Press on Telegram

From the Russian Embassy to China

Moscow, Beijing and Manila signed an agreement on joint participation in the international analytical platform UrbanTransportData , created to develop and improve the transport systems of participating cities

UrbanTransportData is an international analytics platform for the collection, analysis, visualization and publication of transport indicators of the world's cities and will include a news portal, a professional forum for experts in urban public transport development and an urban transport knowledge base.

The project is designed to promote the development and increase the efficiency of transport systems in the interests of residents and guests of the participating cities. UrbanTransportData is implemented by the international analytical team of the Moscow transport complex (analytics, development and communication) and the Department of Foreign Economic and International Relations of Moscow (inviting new members and signing agreements). The project provides for holding online and offline meetings and events, including with representatives of the scientific and expert community.

This sounds so cool!

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[–] ItsPequod@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (5 children)
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[–] 420LetPobedy@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago

Ten killed in private jet crash north of Moscow - Wagner leader Yevgeny Prigozhin 'on passenger list' https://news.sky.com/story/ten-killed-in-private-jet-crash-north-of-moscow-wagner-leader-yevgeny-prigozhin-on-passenger-list-12946006

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Didn't know pringles Was considered the greatest hero of Ukraine on twitter

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[–] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Lord forgive me I’m gonna banepost for the next 24 hours

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

Chinese weapons supplier Norinco expands influence in West Africa, challenging Russia and France

China is expanding its military and security engagement into West Africa, with Chinese state-owned defence conglomerate Norinco opened a sales office in Dakar, Senegal, challenging French and Russian arms suppliers.

Analysts said China North Industries Corporation, or Norinco, would use the new office to help expand its military procurement operations in the region, where China has vast economic interests, including in countries such as Mali, Niger, Burkina Faso and Guinea, which have recently been hit by military coups.

According to defence publication Military Africa, Norinco also aims to set up operations in Mali and Ivory Coast – countries where the Chinese military contractor already has market presence through the sale of arms. It also plans to establish centres for maintenance, repair, and overhaul of vehicles and military equipment in those West African countries. Norinco already has regional offices in Nigeria, Angola and South Africa.

Early this year, Norinco supplied Senegal with VN2 armoured infantry fighting vehicles and other reconnaissance vehicles, according to Military Africa. The Chinese company is also reportedly in discussions with the Senegalese government to supply light weaponry and ammunition for the country’s environment ministry, the publication reported.

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

I am not surprised in the least by this - I think the new government of Niger is opting for their own long-term survival and doesn't want to risk a war that it would almost certainly lose. Wagner and Mali+Burkina Faso could help them, but not in their current situations, and certainly not on this short notice.

We are in the middle - maybe even the beginning - of the evolution of the West African region and Africa in general. Let's see how things develop there over the coming months and years. The population's anti-Western attitudes is encouraging, and if the new government sets up a local bourgeoisie over time, they can be overthrown by that same population.

Niger revolution takes Bonapartist turn

The 4-week old turmoil in the West African state of Niger is taking a curious turn that no longer allows a binary vision of “neo-colonialism and imperialism” versus “national liberation”. Niger’s coup leaders are making overtures to the United States and keeping the Russian military contractors, Wagner PMC, at arm’s length — at least, at the present stage of transition of power.

The speed with which Washington deployed Kathleen FitzGibbon, an ace Africa hand with intelligence background, as its new ambassador to Niamey signals diplomacy as the preferred course while keeping all options on the table.

Significantly, in an editorial, Washington Post took note today that “The two armies [US and Nigerian] have worked closely together over the past decade: Officers are familiar with one another, and Niger’s generals have not been considered anti-American.”

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After returning from Niamey, Abubakar briefed President Bola Tinubu and later spoke to the media where he expressed optimism that the crisis in Niger is not likely to deteriorate beyond diplomacy. Asked if there was any possibility of avoiding a military action by ECOWAS in Niger, Abubakar stated: “Hopefully, diplomacy will see the better of this. Nobody wants to go war, it doesn’t pay anybody, but then again, our leaders have said if all fails — and I don’t think all will fail, we’ll get somewhere, we’ll get out of this mess.”

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General Tchiani is also distancing himself from raucous public support of the putschists, which seems to embarrass him. The salience, according to the Russian daily, is that “judging by the recent actions and statements of the Niger military, they really do not want to sever all opportunities for dialogue with France, the United States and the organisations they support.

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On the whole, Nezavisimaya Gazeta wryly noted, “Judging by the interview, the only thing that Tchiani and his associates are seeking is a revision of the terms of cooperation with the former metropolis. As Zeine put it, “we just want to be respected.” Conceivably, this refers to the revision of the conditions for the extraction of Niger’s uranium and gold reserves. Both are now suspended.

That said, there is great uncertainty regarding the actual intentions of the protagonists. Is the junta, which has class or corporate interests, seeking some concessions to save face or is merely buying time? Is the West scaling down its earlier strident demands of immediate restoration of democratic rule to a modest realistic expectation to let Bazoum go into exile and pin down the putschists to a timeline for transfer of power to an elected government? There are no easy answers.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (5 children)

so is he dead or not? I'm seeing conflicting reports and I don't know which has the most up to date info.

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[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure we doubled the comment total today. Gonna hit 1000 on Friday at this rate.

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[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hope he has all the hotdogs he wants in the afterlife

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[–] Abraxiel@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

So Surovikin out and Prigozhin extremely out. Big day I guess.

Listen Jake when I trip over myself and splatter all over a hard surface it's not because I dropped a banana peel in front of me except it's a hot dog that's malarkey

[–] LargePenis@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Riyadh:— Saudi King has given green signal to the construction of a nuclear plant in Saudi Arabia by China.

As an Arab, I'm loving all these unexpected W moves by the Gulf monarchies. I'm so used to these guys just folding and being America's best lapdogs, especially when it culminated in the embarrassing normalisation of relations between Bahrain/the UAE and Israel. Now I can't believe that MBS through pure chaos might actually change the entire world order. Let's go, I'm ready for this ride.

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