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[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 68 points 7 months ago (3 children)

As a KDE fan, I don't use any of these "redundant" programs, unless there is a true benefit.

The thing is that, LibreOffice works and looks great in Plasma, and Calligra doesn't do anything special.

It's even more obvious for me with KTorrent. We already have qBitTorrent!

I absolutely like things like Neochat, tho, because in this case the "official" alternative is an annoying Electron app.

[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but I don't think competition is bad.

Maybe they'll make it even better than the alternatives.

[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 7 months ago

Of course, I don't think there is anything inherently wrong about Calligra. It's just that, so far... I see no point for using it.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There is also OnlyOffice, which has been more palatable for the people I shared it with (mostly students that were graduating and losing access to free MS Word)

[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can make LibreOffice look more like Microsoft Office, it's in the settings. No need for OnlyOffice for that.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

What's the guide on how to split the executables up into separate processes, so when a spreadsheet window crashes, all other windows don't go down as well?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Man, you must have better luck than me because Libreoffice is utter dogshit at sending a print job correctly IME. Several different machines and printers and I can't get a proper print out of LO.

[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Never had trouble with that. A quick look online seems to tell that it's an issue even for Microsoft Word.

Have you tried exporting to PDF first?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

My solution has been saving in Nextcloud and using the Collabra Suite that I have set up there. It's not much for editing, but it never seems to fail to print as it says it will.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 30 points 7 months ago

Calligra can't deal with .docx files at all, and that's enough to disqualify it, really.

I mean, you can save in .docx but you have to manually type in the file ending cause there isn't an option for it.
And it can technically open .docx files, but don't be surprised when it suddenly adds 6 pages to a document that contains nothing but the word "test".
(I couldn't find out if that was caused by the saving or the opening, but it doesn't really matter.)

[–] sohrab@persadon.com 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

@SeekPie
kde had this for years.
at first it was koffice then they renamed it

[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

Didn't know this, thanks for the info!

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Yes, Calligra has been around forever, and it's been going nowhere in all that time.

I wouldn't place too much hope in it.

[–] myopic_menace@reddthat.com 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Tried it a few months ago! I'll never complain about alternative software, but it currently has only the basics. Until its further developed, I wouldn't be comfortable recommending this over LibreOffice to anyone.

[–] baggins@beehaw.org 1 points 7 months ago

Tried it today with the same thought .

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

I forgot that existed. I haven't used it and now I'm wondering how it compares to libreoffice

[–] FQQD@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 6 points 7 months ago

Certainly looks interesting. Being made by the KDE community, it actually may evolve to something great

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

...why are we making a competitor to libreoffice

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Honestly i'm cool with it. Libreoffice is awesome but is perpetually behind the curve on a lot of things.

My biggest pain points with it currently are:

  • No apparent motivation to incorporate Wayland support, resulting in very strangely sized UI elements or dropdown/popup menus that appear very far away from where you clicked

  • Pivot tables.

And thats just two examples, there are several others.

If this KDE one brings out the big guns, I am super down for it.

[–] mathias_freire@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 months ago

Calligra has been around for a quite while and it's still not on par with either MS Office or Libreoffice.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 7 months ago

Yes, but it's nothing new.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Cool, and this is a good thing. I like it.

That said, after loading KDE on a system this weekend I was reminded of how much like Windows KDE is (on purpose, of course) and how I don't like it.

It's brilliant for someone moving to linux from Windows who "likes Windows" and it's beautiful and fast and free. Just not my preference.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

For me KDE is "Windows UI done right". The layout I prefer, done better than by a trillion dollar corporation. Ergonomic. Beautiful. Just right.

At the same time, Cinnamon, originating from GNOME in an attempt to make it more "Windows-like", is my personal horror, like a collection of all things Windows has done wrong and then some more. Bulky. Rigid. Poor and complicated personalization. But that's truly the beauty of it - for some, Cinnamon is superb.

As per non-Windows style layouts, I tried to force myself to get to know and love them, but they really don't click with me. Windows has done it the way I like, and KDE does it in a way that I don't want to go back to genuine Windows UI, either.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Perfect - yes, that's exactly how it should be. I put plasma neon on an old laptop and went back to wipe it with a new distro but it worked so well I just left it.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But you can change it almost totally, to behave and look more mac os or anything else.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

True, it's just my current distro-of-choice does that out of the box so I just pick the color scheme and I'm off to the races.

[–] bunitor@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

what does this have to do with the thread?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just that they're taking on MS Office which, after Windows, is their biggest cash cow. Reminded me how much like Windows the GUI is.

[–] bunitor@lemmy.eco.br 0 points 7 months ago

sorry, i asked the wrong question. i meant to ask: how is that in any way relevant to the thread?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 months ago

Interesting

Not quite Libreoffice but looks cool

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I still have to use Word for things because LibreOffice hates tables. Every doc I have to edit explodes violently when ooened in LibreOffice, and fixing the formatting to work in LibO would take far too long for the time available to do it.

[–] inaction_figure@fosstodon.org 1 points 7 months ago

@Blaster_M @SeekPie

I wouldn’t say #LibreOffice hates tables. LibreOffice does good work with tables.

I WOULD say that MS Word and LibreOffice **disagree vehemently** about tables.