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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 301 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Another moral victory for Democrats. If only such victories mattered.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 87 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Imagine a tug of rope where only one side is pulling.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The other side just pushed the rope, it doesn't necessarily put the other side at any more of an advantage than just letting go, but it absolutely puts you at a disadvantage because well, you just can't be bothered to pull that rope as well as signalling you're not willing to play the game. Rejecting progressives was pushing the rope, Liz fucking Cheney and all the Republican pandering was pushing the rope. The last minute drop out was pushing the rope.

I'm not giving these shitters another vote until they run serious progressive politicians and policies. We are at rock bottom, and I'll be damned if I enable this shit again.

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[–] takeda@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How you expect this would end up if Democrats would do January 6th?

VP has no such power, what they were trying to do in 2021 was to make Pence do it and hope it would be unchallenged. And if someone challenged it hoping that conservative court would side with Republicans like they did in 2001.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

The big imaginary arbiter is going to drop down from the sky, any day now.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 165 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Ah yes, Dems adhere to longstanding norms and lose while Republicans lie, cheat, exploit, steal, and win. What a fun game.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago (5 children)

If there is nothing in place to prevent the lieing, cheating, and stealing then you're really just putting yourself at a disadvantages by not doing it.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

There are but the Dems refused to use them.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

at this point the media and internet is mostly dominated by republican sympathetic sycophants, its going to be incredibly hard for the democrats to ever win again. they're going to do everything in their power to move the peices to secure the GOP's control indefinetely, so that even once Trump is dead, they'll still win the elections. because guess what, people are fickle, petty, and stupid. and its very easy to use the media, TV Internet or otherwise, to sway opinions.

I am not blind that this is likely just as much Foreign involvement as it is domestic action. Russia is pulling a lot of the puppet strings behind this movement. So much so that I think they even have leverage on not just Trump, but probably Elon Musk too. Elon is small potatoes compared to the wealth of Vladimir Putin, a man who stole from a cartoonishly wealthy in material country for 25 years and put it straight into his pockets.

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

lieing

It's "lying". It's spelled the same as lying (down).

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[–] Saleh@feddit.org 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

By normalizing these behaviours yhu create the moral and political framework in which your opponent thrives. Fascist dont need to win. They can just wait for "Democrats" to dismantle themselves.

Also pretending like the Democratic party isnt big on lying, cheating and stealing too, does not help either. They lost because what they pretended to be and what they really are disparged a lot. The Trumpists are honest about who they are, so they attract the same kind of people, wheras the Dems did everything to alienate people with morals.

And then the Dems turned around and attacked the minorities they pretended to want to protect from Trump, because they didnt suck up to them anymore.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Trumpists are honest about who they are

I could not disagree more. They are unashamed about their behavior but they are not honest.

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't want my representatives to break the law. Crazy, I know. But what if there was a middle ground between doing nothing for 4 years and committing federal crimes...?

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago

What I like is the speech Kamela gave afterwards about fighting for your rights. Do you even see yourself, "democrats", and what you have become!? I'll be proven wrong if "democracy", or what passes for it in the current oligarchy, manages to survive a Trump presidency. I don't think I will be, I think this is really it.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 76 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just a reminder, since these people view everything through the lens of power they view the peaceful transfer of power as us being weak and them being strong and that we're giving in because "we know they can kick our ass" or some dumb shit. Basically, they view things like this as though we're cowering in the corner begging them to stop when it's really the basics of a functioning society.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 66 points 10 months ago

Kamala had a chance to do the funniest thing.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 57 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Huh, no presentation of the gallows this time. Must be budget cuts.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Have you seen the price of lumber lately?

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I remember when you could buy a 2x4 for a buck. It wasn't that many years ago.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Can't even buy the home depot special shorties for that any more.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago (1 children)

America has decided to roll over and let fascism take root.

Our ancestors would be utterly ashamed.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 40 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm more concerned with what our descendents are going to think.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 13 points 10 months ago

They won’t think much of anything, considering what Trump is about to do to the Department of Education.

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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Don't worry Democrats will run Hillary in 2028, surely she'll win this time!

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

DNC staff: if you're reading this - this is a joke. We do not in fact want Hillary Clinton to run. Please. No.

4 fears later: Oh ffs....

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[–] r0bi 13 points 10 months ago

Ah yes, we can now see she simply wasn't old enough yet

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago

Cute you think there will be a free election in 2028 lol

[–] Tja@programming.dev 7 points 10 months ago

In 2028 Democrats will run Eric Trump (Don Jr for the red team).

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[–] C0unterfactual@sh.itjust.works 32 points 10 months ago

Yeah, but fuck 'im.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh c'mon Biden, it's not too late to have him official business'd!

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Honestly, he should push that law to its limit before trump abuses it daily.

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The cohort that controls the Democratic Party are perfectly content to pantomime gentlemanly decorum while being led into the ovens of a fascist authoritarian oligarchy. I’m just completely done with their bullshit.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Trump's gonna literally try to kill them all. They made their own graves with this milquetoast bullshit.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Him and his supporters. It wasn't just the Capitol, it was the fake electors, the pressuring of his VP not to certify, the "find me more votes" call to governors, etc. There are no consequences for this fuck...

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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Would've been pretty funny to have Democrat version of January 6th

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You just saw it. A peaceful transition

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[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Well the American left wouldn't turn out to vote, what makes you think they'd try and storm the capital?

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago

... and are refusing even now at the state level. Ohai, NC, we see you.

[–] crossdl@leminal.space 4 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I wonder if Blue states will be sort of protected like last time. Relatively protected.

I'm quickly becoming a Federalist in the sense that I just want to be left alone in my state that still has environmental protections and fuck Alabama or whoever.

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