"God makes no mistakes, except doctors and modern medicine."
A just God wouldn't give an innocent child to people like that.
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"God makes no mistakes, except doctors and modern medicine."
A just God wouldn't give an innocent child to people like that.
God appears to have made innumerable mistakes since the dawn of time by my reckoning.
Yeah, I'm reading a comment from one of them right now. Hahaha, got em!
Oh no, in reading my own comment and now I'm God's mistake toooooooooooooo^oooooooooooo!!!!!^
What's that old quote about the body being an example of a shitty civil engineer? Something along the lines of: "Only a new civvy puts the playground next to the sewer outflow."
These stupid fucks were mentioned on the Friendly Athiest blog and podcast earlier this year. Look it up. It's a good read / listen.
In a statement read in court, Rachel’s brother, Joel Kerr, said the Pilands “chose their beliefs over their children.” He asked for sentences “sufficiently long that (the couple) can no longer bring life into the world just to snuff it out.”
Monsters. Religion kills. Why do you think abortion is illegal for women who have been raped? Religion.
sentences “sufficiently long that (the couple) can no longer bring life into the world just to snuff it out.”
Now that sounds like justice to me.
And they claim "God makes no mistakes."
Well, they are the mistakes.
A sentence of menopause in prison is an amazing idea.
Interestingly the brother isn't fanatical which would seem to suggest that the husband was the one that got Rachel involved in it.
This is why religion is dangerous.
Just one of many reasons.
How liberating it must be to just dump everything single thing on "god's will", and have to worry about nothing, ever.
It's fucking depressing... This isn't even about religion, it's about untreated, likely even undiagnosed, mental illness.
No kidding. They’ll do something shitty then apologize to their imaginary friend in their head and move along while the rest of the world burns.
yea the annoying thing is they won't feel remorse too, they will just say it was God's will, we will try again.
Read the story. That's literally what they did. They had two more kids after they killed Abigail. And in court they said they would do exactly the same thing again.
I mean, prison, after all, not the most liberated of places
Why would the Lord want you to just let your kid die? Absolutely brainless.
You need to prove your faith* by letting god’s plan happen. By getting the human medical system involved, you’re proving that you don’t trust god (hint: I don’t).
Is it a good time to discuss parenting licence?
Sounds like a way to prevent "undesirable" people from having children. Just so, so wide open to abuse.
Yea I don't really believe in its applicability too but doesn't prevent me from wishing it in a more "ideal" form despite being very dangerously parallel to eugenics. It is just hard to think of anything else when you read a news about a baby dying while vomiting blood.
But about the topic of abuse, everything is open to abuse by billionaires including law, but we still have them.
Honestly the eugenics issues aside the idea of the state regulating one of the most basic facets of humanity disgusts me.
What does that look like, forced birth control, forced abstinence, forced abortions? Sounds like a dystopian hell
No. There's no ethical way to implement something like that. Even if there was, it's ripe for abuse by the wrong administration.
Not parenting licenses, but well funded child protective services. Investigations into claims. Serious monitoring of home schoolers.
As I have been trying to get ANYONE to listen to for the past year, for example, the state of Oklahoma actively does not investigate child welfare cases (except occasionally to take away native or Black children.)
The internal phone system at Oklahoma DHS is NOT WORKING. They have the incorrect numbers for several state agencies, and have been forwarding reports intended for the police to a very confused Hispanic man. This is absolutely insane and should be newsworthy, but no one gives a shit.
You could try reaching out to reporters at ProPublica. Each bio link describes what they cover, so you can target those likely to have an interest.
I’ve been hitting up John Sullivan - he investigated the facility that I am trying to get shut down back when it was under a different name. (How the fuck do you kill a kid, and then immediately get to open up a new facility?)
Good as any.
What exactly is your plan for when someone without a license is found with a baby?
Amazing. They believe in God, they pray for their babies health, and when He sends the midwife to save the baby, they ignore His sign.
Do you think God stays in heaven because humans turned out to be far too irritating and self-destructive to be worth dealing with?
For a more serious answer (from someone who still doesn't believe, especially in the moronic sky daddy of christians)... sort of. God kicked humans out of the garden of eden (and his presence) because humans accepted the gift of knowledge.
Just like how most parents aren't going to solve all of your problems once you're shipped off to college, God's not going to do shit for us. We've been specifically told as much, so religous people constantly praying and expecting miracles is particularly hilarous and pathetic to me. Braindead fools completely ignoring their own teachings.
Religion is dangerous on many levels because it is make-believe taken as reality.
This is just one rather simple example of how fucking stupid it is that people still spread and maintain that oldest of lies.
The only good thing about religion is that all the nutjobs believing in it would likely be the ones also susceptible to other ideologies, manipulations and political groupings in oder to be "part of something greater"... and looking at the world I regard the chances of them getting sucked into something that would actually be good for them and World.... as very slim.
this site should be banned. It's posting crypto "news" aka misinformation after each of their posts. They use Murder Porn to get eyes on their site so they can push their bs crypto nonsense on to their visitors.
A lot of people find Jesus in prison. I don't know what Jesus is in there for, but as lot of people say he is.
Jesus was sentenced to life without parole for disorderly conduct while brown.
Man, this kinda shit always just makes me so sad :(
Don't talk about it too much if you don't want it becoming such a widespread story that it gets Trump to pardon them.
Can't pardon state charges
For now. The orange shit stain gets what he wants.
There is a family guy episode about something similar. Stewie becomes friends with another kid from a very religious family. The kid has cancer and the parents refuse to get treatment and prefer to pray the cancer away. Crazy that these people actually exist. Though I can’t say that I am surprised…
Maybe they’ll find god in prison.
The system will go easy on them, being white, Christian, and Conservative. They'll do a few months. Then they'll have another kid, because bible.
The sentencing is in the article. 20-45 years, largely because they showed no remorse and claimed they would do it again
Damn those atheist baby killers at planned parenthood! Taking good jobs from pious christians!