Sales here. I know people who sell Azure and I can tell you for a fact that Microsoft's sales srategy is literally "well, you're already familiar with Windows/Office, so you might as well..."
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Meanwhile, it was my familiarity with their products that drove me to Linux.
This strategy is called putting all your eggs into the AI basket and then panic when the basket starts rip. So you patch it up with Xbox money because everyone says that basket will be awesome one day. This strategy only works when you have successful developers to sacrifice.
Embrace, Extend and Extinguish...
Its a Microsoft strategy.
The studio I was just laid off from was super successful and Microsoft has now gutted it with the last layoffs. I don't think it'll be successful for that much longer, morale is now non existent and people don't want to work.
Business decisions made by C suites rarely make sense on the ground.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish
Embrace Gaming, Extend Gaming, Extinguish Gaming.
I think it is an actual business tactic. I thi k they're buying up good devs so they won't be bought up by other companies who might use them to make bank.
Eh, I've had a number of coworkers who ended up working for Microsoft. They were all either terrible programmers or utterly unmotivated to do much actual work. One of them was a guy who did not show up even once at my company for more than a year but wasn't fired, for some unknown reason. Microsoft's inability to produce much of anything in the way of good software is no surprise to me.
Personally, I think it has a lot to do with Microsoft's being one of the pioneers of TDD (Test-Driven Development). The idea is that you have a small number of good, experienced developers writing suites of automated tests, coupled with a large number of inexperienced or inept developers who try to write code that passes these tests. Whatever code happens to be good enough is kept and the rest is tossed away. In this model, there is some advantage to sheer numbers even when most of the people you're hiring are pretty terrible at what they do (although these are exactly the kind of employees that can be - and are being - easily replaced by AI).
It's funny to imagine real-world engineering using an approach such as this. Like, imagine a world where they let anybody off the street attempt to build bridges, while the experienced civil engineers spend their time trying to knock them down. You might get a few bridges that actually worked, but your rivers would be clogged with the remains of all the failures.
Is it well known that this is how Microsoft practices TDD? Because that’s not the normal practice for TDD. TDD just means you write tests first, but normally the same person writes the tests and then makes them pass.
I was gonna say, that's not like any form of TDD I've ever come across.
I've never heard TDD described like this. I cannot even understand how this works from a project standpoint.
"We need a new feature. Todd's written the test already, so everyone just have at it with your fastest implementation; whoever passes first, gets to go to prod!"
Reminds me of MCMC sampling, or straight up rejection sampling.
My biggest issue with this kind of "TDD" is, you pay two people to write the same code twice. Test-driven can work if done correctly, but this just stupid.
I had a coworker who was obsessed with writing unit tests. He was the lead developer on a project which was supposed to take three months and at one point had gone past the two year mark without producing working code. At one point during a meeting with the increasingly (and legitimately) unhappy client, he blurted out "but we've written six times as much test code as actual code!" He was not exaggerating either. Believe it or not, this made the client even less happy.
Layoffs also look good to investors (so consider this from the point of a roughly human-shaped scum-sucking parasite) on financial reports because we need to cut costs, those filthy little humans never deliver anything and only cost us money, they need to go.
every week, MS announces record profits, cuts devs by the thousands.
Call of Duty is doing gangbusters? Fire a bunch.
Ho-lee-sheeeeeit that remastered hot garbage Oblivion rejiggering is selling like HOTCAKES! Aw yiss, fire a shitload of them.
Maintain dominance, fire some people.
Oh fuck, let's spend a shitfuckton on AI! That's always profitable! And fire some devs.
Oh shit it's a day that ends in -Y? FIRE 'EM UP.
Fuck fuck fuck fuck we fired too many people, hire a third of linked-in.
Then fire most of 'em.
Welcome to hyper capitalism, where the valuations are made up and long term sustainability doesn’t matter
I fear for all those studios after the husk has been entirely cored out and all that remains is the IP.
Because that's what we're seeing.
The why is really simple. The regular cuts are to keep salaries low by keeping the job market flush with candidates so salaries are suppressed across MS’s competitors too.
yer not wrong.
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It’s called “number go up”. Every quarter, all the time, until the heat death of the universe. Extremely sustainable
That's a good book! Fascinating that the author was hoping to write about the rise and fall of Tether, but it never quite fell, so he ended up with the climax being SBF's downfall
What a lovely coincidence.
Strategy of capitalism. You have to shoot for short term hail-marry profits at the expense of, well, every thing else.
“Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell”
strategy is look like you're doing stuff so investors get excited and your stock goes up. Then close a bunch of studios and layoff a bunch of people so it looks like you're "maximizing efficiency" so investors get excited and your stock goes up
Somewhere along the way we built a system that doesn't actually require you to do or make anything. And that's been absolutely horrible.
It was Jack Welch, and it was during the 1980s 'Yuppie', 'Greed is Good' era.
Fiduciary duty is cancerous in a way that has really accelerated Capitalism. It encourages businesses that would otherwise be entirely sustainable at a small size attempt to grow until they are incompetent, which causes a consistent breakdown/selloff cycle.
Imo this is a function of pensions being purposefully replaced with 401ks. It pinned more and more retirement funds to the performance of a stock market, ostensibly to encourage employees to feel staked in the company stock performance. But it was just a clever way to get away from direct-deposit pension funds.
It was purposeful. The people in charge of capital are known to not produce anything, and that infects ever person down the line. Until of course you get to the actual producer, who gets paid the least while doing literally all the work.
It is inherited wealth. Business acumen is not hereditary. Without a meritocratic social structure, exploitation is the only way the incompetent maintain hegemony. Like 47 could have stayed on Epstein island fucking kids his entire life after putting all of his inheritance in US government bonds and would have far more wealth now than in real life.
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I’m so happy my early alpha forever Minecraft Mojang account I tried to log into a couple weeks ago is DELETED ENTIRELY because I didn’t tie it into a Microsoft bullshit account before an arbitrary point THANK YOU MICROSOFT I WILL DEFINITELY INSTALL WINDOWS 11 EVER
That’s really cool but it’s just not quite the same. Luckily I found ElyPrismLauncher so I can play Minecraft without giving Microsoft any money.
They a little less pro-trump on the servers at least?
It was a pure money grab to not have done this for everyone automatically. I lost my Minecraft copy too because of this. But no way in hell I'm going to give them the satisfaction of buying it again.. I had it since the Minecraft beta/early access(?) too..
Make shareholders happy.
The inhuman monoliths.
make 0 games ??
Yeah, they are making games, though usually at the cost of the devs they bought
Speaking of, hope ToW2 has a longer campaign.
"...it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams we would be reorganized. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing; and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization"
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"Killing morale" would me my guess.
Extend Embrace Extinguish
Such efficiency, they're now skipping extend because it takes competency and straight going from embrace (purchase) to exterminate (shut down).
I don't see it as Ms deciding not to make games, more like their field of failure spreading and infecting all the developers they own
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