I'm so tired of evil people being rewarded.
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Absolutely insane position to be in for a company that has a triple digit PE ratio
Fucking morons.
Evil never dies or goes broke.
And he will leverage the us governments help to meet all criteria to get that pay package. He just has to donate heavily to whoever will replace trump.
This will come in handy when he's arrested and we use his wealth to cure poverty, homelessness, and hunger around the globe.
What's worth more to our species survival?
One ketamine addicted pants wetting Botox infused South African Nazi with a fragile ego...
Or....
The entire world going to sleep with a roof over their head, a full stomach, and a chance at a better life.
Take as long as you need.
His wealth only exists because his companies are way over valued. If he's being arrested, those companies have likely already failed and his wealth with them.
If you see a trillionaire there is only one moral thing to do, and its not even close
Agreed. This is economic cancer and must be removed. Arrest him ... seize the wealth.
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The full compensation would only be delivered if Musk vaults the company from its present value of $1.1 trillion to $8.5 trillion, a figure that exceeds the current combined market values of Meta, Microsoft and Google-parent Alphabet, the filing says.
OK, so not going to happen. This is just bullshit to suck oxygen away from the dumpster fire that is Tesla sales figures.
As I understand it, the fine print allows the board to wave a lot of the requirements and award a large part of the pay package anyway. And since the board is entirely under Musk's control, that's pretty much guaranteed to happen.
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Headline is a bit misleading. He has 10 years to meet a list of requirements to get the pay package.
I actually don’t think he can do it.
He has to sell 1mil humanoid robots, get 12mil robo taxies in the street, and get Tesla’s market cap to $8trillion.
I don’t think he can do the last one. They are at 1 trillion now. NVIDIA has the highest market cap at like 4 trillion.
He doesn't need to do it, he'll just lie about it as he always lies about literally everything.
Without his lying he would be a nobody as he has no discernable skill beyond lying his ass off and selling people fantasies
1 million Tesla robots? I've seen student projects that are more impressive than that shit theyve presented and half of it was faked because they couldn't event et anything basic done. Compare those Tesla robots to Boston dynamics and you'd die from laughter
12 million robo taxis? Tesla still doesn't have full self driving that can get a Tesla off a parking lot yet he claims they can cruise cross country through the US without help. Uh huh...
And who forgot how we set foot on Mars in 2018? What a wonderful time that was.
What if he gets the government to buy it all, in a roundabout way to provide services to the populace via the government. The rejig the taxis to mean robo trains and buses that are free for everyone. The robots can staff hospitals, doing menial tasks (cleaning, changing diapers), leaving the more important work for actual humans.
Maybe he was a socialist all along!
Thank fucking god you explained this. I was thinking wtf is wrong with this world and now I understand this is an unreasonable performance comp plan - makes so much more sense and with the damage he’s done to that brand, people like me wouldn’t buy a thing from them. I wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire.
It depends on how these things are defined. Say, for example, a 1-foot humanoid roomba minus any utility. When it comes to the market cap, causing hyperinflation of America's dollar can allow it to become true by the word, if inflation isn't part of the agreement.
The robo-taxi is probably the toughest part. Maybe a means for the military to 'taxi' explosives into civilians at Stephan Miller's command?
I know. This all sounds stupid. Unfortunately, I have precedent. Gestures at the year 2025.
No way he lasts 10 years.
Tesla will be bankrupt in 2 years. They may flog it to keep it moving for a while longer, but it is already too late. It's brand reputation sucks, nobody is buying them but losers, most people that own one would dump it if anyone would pay a reasonable amount for it, the quality control is notoriously terrible, and as they age, their repair and maintenance issues are going to become very expensive. They won't recover from any of that. If it wasn't for the government buying so much unused inventory, they'd be in even worse shape than they are.
Besides, he is one of the most reviled men on the planet. In 10 years, the world is going to be very different. Either it will be ruled by ruthless scum like Musk and Trump, or the other 8 billion people on the planet will do something about the >50 people in the world who are fucking it up for everybody else.
I'm really hoping that a decade from now, Musk, and his psychopathic super villain buddies, won't be an issue, one way or another.
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So over ten years Musk is getting about 3% of the entire US GDP for 2024!
ONE MAN receives just above 3% of GDP! AFAIK that's about the combined value of the productivity of 5 million people for a whole year!
I don't get how it's even possible for Tesla to pay him that much? And it's absolutely insane that stockholders think he should be paid that much?!
They basically print money by issuing stock, then compensating with that stock.
To add to that, billionaires avoid taxes by borrowing against their astronomical securities and stock assets. This is one of the reasons interest rates are of such concern to the rich.
They can then use dividends and other liquid income to perpetually pay for the interest. If shit hits the fan, or they want to pay off the loan, then they would have to pay taxes on the income from the sale of assets.
But if you have a trillion fucking dollars in stock, paying tax on several billion dollars isn’t comparably bad, especially when you can purchase influence by manipulating society with your own social media company and inducing corruption by getting Trump elected.
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The difference between 1 million and 1 billion is about 1 billion. The difference between 1 billion and 1 trillion is about 1 trillion.
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1 trillion dollars divided by 8 billion humans could pay each and everyone if us 125 dollars, which would go a long way in poor regions.
Or, framed differently: Tesla stole 125 dollars from every human alive to give it to Elon Musk.
I hasn't happen yet. It is precisely Elon's job to get those $125 from every human (or whatever the exact number is). If he succeeds at that, only then does he get paid $1T.
He has to bring in 8.5 trillion to claim his trillion. So $1000 from everyone on earth.
Right. The point people don't get is that he only gets paid if and after he raises Tesla numbers by trillions. The difference between him and those who complain is that there are some people at Tesla who think he can do it.
The different framing is a weird take, that's not how this works. He's an asshole and this is insane, but that's just not how this works.
It is though. The technology to build anything in today’s world, including Teslas, is built on the foundation of all prior human labor and innovation. Nobody ever builds anything “from scratch,” and therefore nobody can claim sole ownership over any invention. Capitalists just use force to steal the product of all of that for themselves.
Yeah I'm not a moron
I'm talking about the actual pay package.
In the grand scheme of things, thats how it works.
If you ignore every nuance about the pay package and assume the global economy is a zero sum game...sure
I think it's a very important frame. Everyone should have a good, long think about how much money it costs them that billionaires exist. And it isn't distributed evenly, basically every european and american has spend tens of thousands of dollars so that some people have more money than they could ever spend and use it to pay politicians to keep that dough rolling in, stabilising a system of redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich.
The same holds true for rich and poor countries. Most poor countries today are poor because they have been plundered in one way or another.
I can also run a successful business into the ground, and I would do it for a lot less money.
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I saw a meme earlier and adapted it from billions to trillions. It is a literally unimaginable number.
How Much Is A Trillion?
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1 million seconds = about 12 days
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1 billion seconds = about 32 years
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1 trillion seconds = about 31,710 years. This long ago was the beginning of the last ice age, and before the invention of rope.
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1 million minutes ago was approximately 2 years ago
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1 billion minutes ago was the year 114 AD,
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1 trillion minutes was 1.9 million years ago, the time of the earliest known homo erectus fossils, distant ancestors of modern humans.
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1 million hours ago it was the dawn of the 20th century (1901)
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1 billion hours ago was 114k years ago, the time when neanderthals first began using seashells as personal decorations. The Sahara desert is a marshland.
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1 trillion hours ago was 114.2 million years ago, the Cretaceous period, time of dinosaurs like the Stegosaurus and Triceratops, and the time when bees first evolved. Humans would not evolve for millions more years.
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1 million days ago it was about 700BC, Rome was a small village and writing had only just begun to spread.
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1 billion days ago was 2.7 million years BC. If all the time since then were compressed to one year, all of recorded history would be just a couple of hours.
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1 trillion days ago was 2.7 billion years BC, and the only life on earth were single-cell organisms. Pangaea did not exist yet.
The entire universe is only 13.8 billion years old, so 1 trillion weeks ago is older than reality itself. That’s how much money Musk was just paid for destroying Tesla.
1 trillion hours ago was 114.2 million years ago, the Cretaceous period, time of dinosaurs like the Stegosaurus and Triceratops, and the time when bees first evolved. Humans would not evolve for hundreds of millions more years.
You fucked this up.
By your own logic humans wouldn't evolve for at minimum another 85.8 million years from today, which is obviously weekend because humans wrote both my statement and yours so we already exist
You are correct! It’s now fixed.
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Abject unmitigated balls to the wall madness. There's absolutely no way that hapless moron can generate in excess of one trillion dollars of value for those shareholders over the next decade, and even if he could no single individual should ever have that amount of wealth.
Most overpaid "worker" ever.
It's interesting to note that given the evidence of Elon, that being a CEO is a part time job. It has to be. It's impossible for Elon to work 40 hours a week at 6 companies.
And I've always been told by the people that excuse outrageously out-of-step executive pay with this bullshit narrative about how they are the best and the brightest (just like top athletes, don't you know!), and they work long hours, probably more than anyone else at the company and other such hilarious fictions. They are basically the Michael Jordans of capitalism, yadda yadda.
This guy cannot be working even 40 hours at all six of his companies. That's simply impossible, even if he never slept.
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Tesla is still one of the smallest car companies by actual amount of produced goods and their values
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Elon and Trump combined are creating inflation.
This dude is straight Bernie Madoff on a global scale.
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