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Oregon Trail Generation, here.
Me in high school / college: "There are people with conservative views and there are people with liberal views, and while I see myself as a Democrat, I don't think we have all the answers, and surely the path into the future is to find people of all political persuasions and find positive compromise amongst them all to move forward."
Me now: "The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles..."
Oh man, I wonder if it has anything to do with the US government completely failing to ever provide any of the following for millenials:
Basically, we're the first generation of Americans to not have a functional government of any kind that has done anything to improve the quality of our lives. All we have gotten from the decades of our tax dollars going into our bullshit corporate capitalist system is the literal worst Covid response on the plant, multiple bank bailouts, the worst education, the most costly Healthcare, and now for the salaries of actual fascists.
Fuck any American too stupid and selfish to move left enough to save America. Hope owning the libs was worth getting our Democracy inverted, our Supreme Court destroyed, our justice system shredded, all to get a president that shits himself, insults everyone, and diddles kids.
It's that or voting left, and somehow we have that. It would be embarrassing if it already wasn't so fucking cruel. Millenials aren't moving left, they're getting pushed to the point of just not caring for a country that clearly doesn't care for them and literally never has.
I think the older and richer folks do not understand that power is a mutual exchange.
They don't, and historically never have. So it's about to get Mario Kart 64 versus mode in the States with the amount of Luigi-ing that is likely going to happen soon.
It’s because Gen X (my generation) turned out to be so grotesque.
Despite the very real, observable harm that the Internet has done to the world, this is one thing that I think is good about it. Millennials and late gen x grew up with the Internet and the full availability of history and current events. Did everyone use it for that? Fuck no. But some of their friends did. And they talked about it.
For the first time, most people in a young generation were exposed to the very real horrors of the world and why they happened. The answer is always, "one group wanted power over another" for various reasons. But that desire, wanting power over others, is a very right wing idea. So the effect is a shying away from the thing that has been burning us for literally ever.
We didn't start the fire
That's a funny way of saying the center has moved further right faster than our cranky asses have. Jkjk
I dunno. Plenty of us genx have done the same. I'm really glad to see more move that way, cause seriously, fuck the right.
We don't exist though.
That's right. Back into the obscurity corner you go.
Meh. The words of my generation.
Probably because they've yet to see a right-wing government complete a 4 year term without a calamity occurring.
I'm 100% serious.
What generation has seen that, though?
I asked an AI:
when was thr last time a Republican president completed a 4 year term without a catastrophic event happening
Calvin Coolidge (1923–1929)
Calvin Coolidge, a Republican, completed a full four-year term from August 1923 to March 1929 after succeeding Warren G. Harding, followed by winning election in 1924 for a nearly full second term.[1][2] His presidency occurred during the Roaring Twenties, marked by economic prosperity rather than immediate catastrophe, though the Great Mississippi Flood in 1927 prompted limited federal response.[3][4] Scandals from the prior administration lingered but did not erupt into a defining crisis under Coolidge, who distanced himself effectively.[5]
No Republican president since Coolidge has completed a full four-year term without a major event widely viewed as catastrophic. Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953–1961) managed two terms amid Cold War tensions like the U-2 incident, Suez Crisis, and civil rights struggles, but these defined his era as turbulent.[6][7] William Howard Taft (1909–1913) finished one term but alienated progressives, leading to party splits without a singular disaster.[8]
Earlier examples like Chester A. Arthur (1881–1885) involved party defeats and reform pushes post-assassination, not uneventful stability.[9] Defining "catastrophic" as economic collapse, war, scandal, or disaster, Coolidge stands as the last with relative calm before the 1929 crash under Hoover.[10][3]
Citations: [1] List of presidents of the United States - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States [2] Presidency of Calvin Coolidge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Calvin_Coolidge [3] Calvin Coolidge: Impact and Legacy - Miller Center https://millercenter.org/president/coolidge/impact-and-legacy [4] In 1927, Calvin Coolidge refused to provide aid during the Great Mississippi Flood, despite six governors requesting it. He also refused to visit the disaster zone. https://www.reddit.com/r/Presidents/comments/1m5q805/in_1927_calvin_coolidge_refused_to_provide_aid/ [5] The Last Time a President Got a Pass on a Scandal- ... https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/06/calvin-coolidge-scandals-donald-trump-226576 [6] Dwight D. Eisenhower - Key Events - Miller Center https://millercenter.org/president/dwight-d-eisenhower/key-events [7] Presidency of Dwight D. Eisenhower - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Dwight_D._Eisenhower [8] William Howard Taft | Biography, Accomplishments, Presidency ... https://www.britannica.com/biography/William-Howard-Taft [9] Presidency of Chester A... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Chester_A._Arthur [10] Major Crises During Every US Presidency | Stacker https://stacker.com/stories/politics/major-crises-during-every-us-presidency [11] What Happened the Last Time Republicans Had a Majority ... https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/11/1928-congress-last-time-republicans-had-a-majority-this-huge-112913 [12] Presidents Who Didn't Win a Second Term https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0812/5-presidents-who-couldnt-secure-a-second-term.aspx [13] Presidency of Lyndon B. Johnson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Lyndon_B._Johnson [14] 50 Worst Decisions In American Politics' Last 50 Years ... https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-lists/worst-decisions-american-politics-1974-2024-1234940313/ [15] Every single republican president since Theodore ... https://www.reddit.com/r/AskConservatives/comments/16uufz4/every_single_republican_president_since_theodore/ [16] Life-changing disasters have shaped our modern presidents https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3848362-life-changing-disasters-have-shaped-our-modern-presidents/ [17] Remember last time a republican president had their 2nd term? https://www.reddit.com/r/economy/comments/1lq8kqn/remember_last_time_a_republican_president_had/ [18] Main Events of the Eisenhower Presidency, 1953-61 http://www.kansasheritage.org/abilene/ikeeven.html [19] William Taft - Key Events - Miller Center https://millercenter.org/president/william-taft/key-events [20] Chester A. Arthur: Impact and Legacy | Miller Center https://millercenter.org/president/arthur/impact-and-legacy [21] Calvin Coolidge - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_Coolidge [22] Timeline of the William McKinley presidency - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_William_McKinley_presidency [23] List of Republican Presidents https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/list-of-republican-presidents.html [24] Benjamin Harrison https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Harrison [25] William McKinley Event Timeline https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/william-mckinley-event-timeline [26] List of presidents of the United States https://www.britannica.com/topic/Presidents-of-the-United-States-1846696 [27] A String of 6 Forgettable U.S. Presidents https://www.dummies.com/article/academics-the-arts/history/american/a-string-of-6-forgettable-u-s-presidents-151452/
I agree 100%. They're incompetent and dumb as hell.
I was repeatedly told that when I got older I would "understand" why policy makers made the terrible decisions they did, and that it was immature to believe they were cartoonishly evil.
Instead, I learnt that the reality was even worse than cartoonishly evil.
A lot of things suddenly get explained when one becomes aware of the traits associated with Psychopathy and Sociopathy and how around 5% of humans are high in the spectrum for one or the other.
In my own experience, certain kinds of behaviors are incredibly hard to believe in (deep down, emotionally, even if intellectually one does) when a person has an average or above average level of empathy: when you have a normal level of empathy it's pretty hard to put yourself in the shoes of and naturally accept that some people are casually and without any feeling of guilt the kind of person who, for example, couldn't care less if their personal-upside-maximizing actions hurt even little children or puppies as long as they didn't get reprisals from others for doing it.
Instead, I learnt that the reality was even worse than cartoonishly evil.
Yeah, it's saying something when you figure that IRL villains are very often worse than the mustache-twirling villains featured in comic books.
The banality of evil.
In Australia.
In America the effect really depends on the subgroup you're looking for. Educated vs uneducated, wealthy vs poor, rural vs urban. Overall Millennials haven't gotten more conservative as they age, but aren't continuing to move left. The entire cohort has always been many points left of the others, absolutely from the constant crises. I'm not sure of any recent research on the cohort moving further in recent times, but I'd love to see it if anyone has it.
The other worry here is, Millennials might also be the last generation to do this, as we're losing in many thought spheres where young people get their information, including first political impressions of the world around them. Conservative think tanks absolutely saw what was happening with Millennials and vowed to win back the next generation.
People listen to Andrew taint and go "I like the cut of his jib!"
Sadly they've intertwined it with the already fragile state of masculinity so now it's not uncommon for teen influencers to also be neo-nazis. We weren't listening to boys and this happened. The boys are not OK.
I know anecdotes aren't data, but I'm a millennial who moved further left with age.
I started left, but am now more vehemently so.
I started as a communist and ended up an anarchist.
Maybe because concervativism went from stay at home mom's to ethnic cleansing and genocide.
No shit. We are living in a worse time of inequality than the gilded age.
Saw our boomer and genX parents ride the rise, told it'd be ours too, only to witness everything taken away, revealing only the lies remaining; the false promises that daddy corporation would take care of us all.
On a personal note, saw my parents throw away their entire 2 million, cost me a million in effort through blackmail, slavery, torture and fraud, and then inverted my efforts, so it's like they managed to throw away 4 million, and then I'm there with the government doing waves of culls of the disabled poor by cutting them off to starve, denying them even the pittance (~ I've heard said, disabled people's costs of living are 4-10 times higher, and, so, why is the top rate of disability support income less than half what they say is the living wage?)... yeah, the inequality keeps going down all the way. Not just comparing the billionaires and trillionaires to the working class and upper precariat. ... All while knowing the technology exists to emancipate everybody to lush abundance... Buuuut, is suppressed, because, ' gotta keep those rents and regressive tax extortion and usury flowing, eh?
Sucks being dependent on your abuser.
... Will not be televised.
Are millennials also the first generation to have lower standards of living than their parents? I think housing costs is the biggest part of that.
Costs in general. I just stand there in the grocers thinking "shit, they should nationalize the food chain"
It's hard to think of powerful businesses I interact with from day-to-day that government shouldn't either completely nationalize or expropriate their property and split up.
grocery chains √
power companies(including gas stations)? √
internet providers? √
real estate companies/landlords √
Yadda yadda yadda...
So much is paid for by taxpayers anyway. Like cell towers.
The gov't subsidized cell towers but doesn't own them and can't dictate cost. So why did tax payers cover it?
Millennials are the first generation to move left as they age
I told you boomers I was gonna do that, when I was 17, already coming out of my corporate-fanboi phase of my teens. "Afukinatoadaso"
Glad there are millennials who came after me doing so too. Unsurprising, given what we went through. Well done capitalism, selling out our futures.
Now I just hope more remembered it's freedom too, and not just jumping boat from Big Baron into the arms of Big Brother (or Big Bully, or Big Bank, or Big Blight, or Big Bot).
Like ol Mikey Bakunin said: "We are convinced that freedom without Socialism is privilege and injustice, and that Socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality." -- Mikhail Bakunin https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mikhail_Bakunin
[Edit... it's only early to mid 40s for the first Millennials so far... We'll see if that sticks. As the saying goes, "60's the new 40".]
Right wing parties feed on fear: the fear of losing what you have.
Millenials have had no chance to build anything to lose. They're not self contained fiefdoms jealously guarding Whats Mine Is Mine, they rely heavily on social groups and community.
And Ezra Klein out here saying Dems need to move right....
"First generation to be worth a damn"
No matter how good or bad your situation is, turning right is like gouging your own eyes out. It makes the situation worse for literally everyone. Even the hyper rich would be better off under a more left paradigm.
Let's go! One last Millennials are ruinning...
Fascism!
I’m millenial. I’m as left as they come. Fuck the right so hard
Because everything is fucking my shit up and family is worth less than nothing. Older generations got some personal benefit from fasch policy as they aged.
Me, I just see it proven evil and stupid literally every single day. Hard work just gets you more debt. Ownership is fake unless youre already wealthy. The law doesn't protect me. The government is not my friend. The people in charge dont know what they're fucking doing unless there's a child in the room-and in that case I'd rather not know, but keep finding the fuck out. We know we don't get to retire.
It's a material interest thing. And at this point a lot of us aren't dumb enough to betray our comrades for the scraps our grandparents go6 by age 30.
umm? gen x here. lefterer every day.
Me too…but we’re outliers.
SO many people who I thought were cool turned out to be morons…an alarming amount of them were radicalized in the pandemic. Even many of the people I know that think they’re devout leftists seem to feel they need to have one or more “edgy” views that cause them to caucus with radical centrists or right wingers. Like…my bi hippie friend started voting conservative because Palestine…my own lefty brother started voting conservative because of guns. Just found out a very poor ex girlfriend voted conservative because of right wing views on addiction. Then you have all the insane tankies…if you explained horshoe theory to them their heads might explode from the cognitive dissonance.
The author probably forgot about Gen X like almost everybody else.
I doubt it.
Gen X Features Musk, Bezos and Joe Rogan. Can’t think of any significant leftists ATM (I could if I took more time and didn’t have confirmation bias for the purposes of this response, lol). AOC & Mandahmi…Millenials.
Note: I’m Gen X.
Who?