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Alleged gunman faces nine charges including second-degree murder in New York state case

Luigi Mangione is due to appear in Manhattan state court on Monday for the first day of a potentially weeklong proceeding to weigh the legality of evidence gathered during his arrest after the killing of a prominent healthcare executive.

Mangione was apprehended last December in the murder of senior United HealthCare figure Brian Thompson last December. In addition to state-level charges, he faces a Manhattan federal court case.

Thompson’s brutal slaying on the streets of New York city triggered an intense manhunt for the killer, but also sparked an outpouring of anger at the practices of the US for-profit healthcare industry. Since his arrest Mangione has attracted some enthusiastic supporters, both online and at his court appearances.

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[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Pretty sure his hearing is fine, not syre why he needs hearing tests

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago

Y'all need to look at the McDonald's manager's 911 call. She says that several customers are coming up to her and telling her it's the guy from the shooting and then she goes on to describe him as wearing a medical mask and sunglasses, etc.

So some guy who is mostly covered up looks like a guy who is mostly covered up? Yeah right. And you're telling me a ton of customers recognized him? Wtf

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Free Luigi! Remember Remember the 4th of December. Jail the insurance CEO’s and Shareholders for mass murder!

[–] flamiera@kbin.melroy.org 64 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

A CEO gets killed - the law, the police, the government are all out in droves to find who done it.

Your relative, a friend, your child even gets killed - eh, chances are likely you could get a cold case or not the desired results you were hoping for when the sentencing comes around. Oh and those thoughts and prayers.

It cannot be anymore clear as day as to who is pocketing the authority to do their bidding. Try and tell me with a straight face that the justice system is in favor of the people.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 21 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

To be fair, if a child dies...if it wasn't in a car crash or a school or accidental shooting, it was probably because of people like this CEO.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 9 hours ago

Those car crashes and shootings are also result of policy put forward by people like this CEO.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Isn't like the murder resolution rate in NYC around 50%? And that is in the areas that have more surveillance than anywhere else in America?

Even in Canada the murder resolution rate can hover around 60% in good places. (Toronto once had a resolution rate of 80% in a good year but that was an exception). Ultimately it really is the nature of the victim as to how fast a murder gets resolved.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Jesus. That's insane to think about in modern times. With all the surveillance and data available, you'd think it'd be way higher, regardless of who the victim is. How depressing.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 9 points 9 hours ago

It's almost like all the surveillance was never really about solving those crimes.

[–] yogurt@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It's 75% in NYC 50% is probably state average.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Nope. According to the 2024 Clearance report (4th quarter) from NYC the murder resolution rate was 50.57% in grand total. The 75% you are referring to is from Manhattan only. Brooklyn had a 41.67% clearance rate and the Bronx was at 51.72%. Queens was absolute shit at only 33.33% of murders cleared. With Staten Island at 66.67%.

Source

Edit: I need to mention that cleared doesn't mean 'convicted absolutely and we found the killer 100%' it just means that they arrested and charged someone with the crime. If the charges are later dropped for some reason, or the person(s) go to trial and are acquitted, it doesn't count against the statistic.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 59 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

The slaying wasn’t that brutal

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 48 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

A clean, point blank shot to the head is just about as un-brutal as it gets, as far as non-consensual deaths go

[–] korazail@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 8 hours ago

A brutal slaying would be taking money from someone for years with the promise that if they get hurt, you will take care of them; and then when that occurs, you force them and their family through tons of beaurocracy before denying their help and consigning them to a slow death.

The editor should be fired for allowing such blatant bias to be published.

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 21 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Consensual Death would be a good band name.

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[–] bastion@feddit.nl 6 points 15 hours ago

you're not wrong.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

It was a suicide. The video was just AI

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[–] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 49 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

How are the court hearings going for the cops that murder family members?

[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 19 points 16 hours ago

Whathhearings?

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[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 103 points 19 hours ago

Cops were so thirsty for a conviction they completely broke the chain of custody on their "evidence". The whole thing should be thrown out

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago

Self defense. Actually self defense plus defending his fellows. I see no crime in this. Luigi is innocent!

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 139 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

Mangione’s legal team has repeatedly pushed for the exclusion of evidence gathered during his arrest at an Altoona, Pennsylvania, McDonald’s restaurant on 9 December 2024. They have claimed that police, who came to the fast-food eatery based on an anonymous tip, did not immediately apprise Mangione of his constitutional rights.

Mangione’s lawyers have argued that because he was not apprised of his rights, his statements to police should not be permitted in court. They also argue that evidence taken during his arrest should be barred, saying they conducted a “warrantless search” of Mangione’s backpack.

This is the crux of the issue.

Ever since the start I've been saying he was a suspect and they were tracking him based off of illegally obtained evidence. The whole tip was BS. Some random person (most likely cop or fed) told a fast food worker there was a reward and to call it in, then just left.

They needed an excuse to say they found a suspect, because they found him illegally. It's actually standard procedure called "parallel investigation".

But even if the call holds up, they fucked up all the evidence gathering.

I really think he'll get off on a technicality and trump will try to jail him anyways keep the wealthy happy

[–] grue@lemmy.world 36 points 17 hours ago

It's actually standard procedure called "parallel investigation".

The usual jargon is "parallel construction," in case somebody wants to look it up.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 33 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

The way I see this going is

Mangione wins his initial case on the issues you highlight.

Theres a big legal slapfight.

Ends up in front of the supreme court.

Trump makes a public statement about how dangerous people like Mangione need to be found guilty and executed.

Shortly after the statement, the Supreme Court abruptly declares Mangione guilty.

Trump holds a public execution within a month. Possibly profiting off it by selling tickets to his billionaire backers.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 25 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

SCOTUS doesn't (normally) rule on guilt, they rule on the legal questions raised in the appeal, and send cases back down to be finished.

[–] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 28 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

(normally)

Doing a lot of heavy lifting there

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[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Can the Supreme Court overrule a jury? Doesn't he have a right to a jury trial? Can Mangione be convicted if no jury is willing to do it?

Not that constitutional rights have ever stopped Trump.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago

If theres no one willing to follow the law, then nothing can be held accountable.

as you see with the trump admin. Does whatever it wants, with almost impunity, because they have corrupted the entire system to get rid of all checks and balances.

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[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 73 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Thompson’s brutal slaying on the streets of New York city

Gtfo

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 35 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, it was as brutal as any other shooting. Do cops shooting kids ever get described as "brutal"?

It's not like he was beaten to death with a tire iron, or denied treatment and left to a slow and agonizing death that also leaves your family in ruins.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 22 points 17 hours ago

It was just a corrective market force.

[–] NoTagBacks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

This BRUTAL ASSASSINATION of a poor little innocent ceo who definitely didn't profit on the corpses of thousands of people who were denied healthcare specifically because of his own intentional policies. This precious baby ceo was MORDERED in COLD BLOOD by this bloodthirsty ~~mass~~ murdering ~~immigrant~~ ~~minority~~ who hated him because FREEDOM and the BRAVE and BOLD decision of the ceo to allow poor people to be able to CHOOSE to die via paperwork ~~as a weapon~~. Surely this ceo who's name we can't find for some reason is smiling down on his beloved healthcare industry from the heaven that definitely exists. We hope the ultra powerful and scary ~~mass~~ murderer Luigi Mangione gets the JUSTICE the people of this country are clamoring for.

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You forgot to pull the husband and father card. 8/10, really gotta hammer that orphan angle home next time.

[–] NoTagBacks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

Unfortunately, nothing is known about the alleged victim of Luigi Mangione. It seems as though he may ironically be just as soon forgotten as his many thousands of victims denied the Healthcare they needed for the sake of some bloodsucking 'shareholders' making more money while contributing nothing of worth to society. He may or may not have been a father and husband, but he also may or may not have killed his own humanity by depriving thousands of others of their own fathers, mothers, children ,cousins, friends, etc. I'm not explicitly saying that he deserves to be forgotten, but I'm not sure I'd want to remember someone if they were anything like the later possibility. But what do I know? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Meanwhile our president bragged on the campaign trail that he could stand in the middle of a NYC street and shoot someone and not lose any voters. We have federal agents brutally slaying innocent people on streets across the country while being treated like heroes.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody"

Didn't Thompson get shot like a block away from 5th Ave?

Why are they bothering this Luigi guy?! There's the asshole they need to be investigating!

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[–] oh_@lemmy.world 90 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

My man is innocent. Was not even there.

[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 54 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't look remotely like the guy in that original mugshot they were flashing around.

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 31 points 19 hours ago

Right? This has bothered me from the beginning. He's not the guy in the footage who shoots Thompson, and it's obvious. But they need someone to take the fall as an example, to protect the rich.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 45 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Luigi was with me the whole time.

[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 42 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

You're a liar.

He was balls deep in my wife at the time this supposed murder took place.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 23 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like ThePyroPython is your wife

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[–] watson@lemmy.world 27 points 20 hours ago

He’s so hot, OMG

The only crime here is that he is not my husband

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