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https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

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https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

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https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

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Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (5 children)

US stock market absolutely ate shit today after some tech companies reported weak earnings, NASDAQ almost -3%, Amazon -6%, Google -10%

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[–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Looks like the IDF is broadening their horizons and striking medical facilities in Egypt

Taba isn't anywhere near Gaza (nor anywhere near Israeli population centers), so I'm really not sure what the IDF is thinking.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (3 children)

According to the New York Times, satellite images show that the IRGC missile forces opened long-range missile silos at noon today.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

BREAKING NEWS : the Israel Defense Forces have begun the ground invasion over the Gaza strip, TASS reported. New updates will come soon on the channel, stay careful.

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[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

‘Security incident’ near Red Sea border with Egypt: Israeli military

The Israeli military has said that is “aware of a security incident” near Israel’s Red Sea border with Egypt, after reports of a blast in the Egyptian town of Taba.

The source of the explosion is unclear.

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Egyptian media: Five injured after rocket falls on Taba

Egyptian media outlets are now reporting that at least five people have been injured after a missile linked to the Israel-Hamas war fell on a building in the Red Sea town of Taba.

Taba lies just across the border from Israel, with the Israeli city of Eilat nearby.

There has been no official confirmation of the incident from the Egyptian government.

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[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I really really don't want there to be a big regional war in the middle east that could spiral into world war three

It would be really great if that not happens

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[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei accused the United States of “directing” Israel’s attack on Gaza.

“America is a definite accomplice of criminals,” said Khamenei during a speech in Tehran. “The United States is in some way directing the crime that is being committed in Gaza.”

Khamenei added the hands of Americans are “tainted with the blood of the oppressed, children, patients, women and others”.

Mr. Khamenei, America yearns for freedom

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

🔴 Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine:

Britain displaced our people and insists on annihilating them.

The statements and positions of the British government are nothing but an extension of its original crime that caused the Nakba of our people and led to the displacement of millions of Palestinians, insisting on completing the annihilation of our people, displacing those who remain and erasing them from existence.

The statements and positions of the British government are filled with colonial resentment and hatred towards our people, supporting, encouraging, and even pressuring for the annihilation of the Palestinians, through its persistence and insistence on opposing any positions calling for stopping the aggression and genocide.

The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine reminds the British government that our people and the Arab nation have not forgotten Britain's primary role in our displacement in 1948, granting our land to the zionist invaders, and manufacturing our historical tragedy. The current British stance should be held accountable, not just condemned and denounced. The Front calls on the masses of the Arab nation, freedom fighters of the world, and supporters of the Palestinian people to respond appropriately to such a brutal and aggressive stance.

The Front urges the Arab masses, forces supporting Palestinian rights, and all anti-colonial powers, to escalate their resistance against Britain, its interests, its embassies, and its military bases. This feeble specter cannot imagine that its way of regaining its reputation as an open colonial empire comes at the expense of the rights and blood of our people.

Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine

October 25, 2023.

This comes off as a call to violence against Britain.

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[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

babe wake up it's 10am, time for your daily helpless doomscroll

Death to America

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[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Emmanuel Macron will call for the “resumption of a genuine peace process” for the creation of a Palestinian state when he visits Israel on Tuesday his office told the French news agency AFP.

The French President will also call for “halting the colonisation” of the West Bank with Israeli settlements, AFP reported his office said on Monday ahead of the visit which was announced on Sunday.

During his trip, which will include a meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Macron will “show solidarity to Israel” and “make commitments against terrorist groups very clear”, his office also said.

macron

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The Hungarian parliament has rejected a proposal to vote on Sweden's application to join NATO.

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[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I’m getting real tired of the Iranian Foreign Ministry talking shit

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (5 children)

An American military transport aircraft C-17 Globemaster with the call sign of a medical evacuation board is en route from Baghdad to the Ramstein base, where the Landstuhl military hospital is located.

It appears that after yesterday's attacks on US bases in the Middle East, wounded or killed US troops are being transferred.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (6 children)

What the fuck america. I know the majority oppose but this is still far too fucking high support.

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[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

Al Jazeera:

Netanyahu crossed a red line: Israeli opposition leader
Leader of the Israeli opposition, Yair Lapid, has slammed Netanyahu, saying the PM “crossed a red line” after blaming the country’s security establishment for the failures that led to the October 7 attack.
“While IDF soldiers and commanders are fighting valiantly against Hamas and Hezbollah, he is trying to blame them instead of backing them up,” Lapid said on X.
“The attempts to evade responsibility and place the blame on the security establishment weakens the IDF while it is fighting Israel’s enemies. Netanyahu must apologize for his words.”

Update:

Netanyahu deletes controversial tweet: Report
Israeli media report that PM Netanyahu has deleted a controversial statement where he blamed the military and the Shin Bet – Israel’s intelligence services – for having assessed before the war that Hamas was deterred and wanted to come to a settlement.
We earlier reported that Benny Gantz, a retired general and member of Israel’s war cabinet, said Netanyahu “must retract” the statement, adding that “leadership must show responsibility, decide to do the right things and strengthen the forces”.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Pentagon spokesman to Al Jazeera: We are not part of any ground operation carried out by #Israel

The Washington Post, citing officials: US administration officials have become very concerned about the potential repercussions of a full-scale ground attack.

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[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (9 children)

I need to at some point go by this Palestinian restaurant in my city. Broke my foot so haven't been out for a while.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago

Rybar playing down analysis suggesting that Russia intends to provide intelligence and recon to the resistance, instead suggesting that it's just for fighting IS militants.

🇮🇱🇮🇷 🇷🇺 🇸🇾 The French publication Intelligence Online reports, based on intelligence sources, that the Russian authorities will soon transfer nine Forpost-M UAVs to the Khmeimim airbase in Syria. This has raised concerns among Israeli intelligence services, who fear that these reconnaissance drones could be used to assist Hezbollah and Iran against Israel.

📌 The transfer of drones to Syria aligns with the current situation, which goes beyond the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. There are other factors to consider: the increased activity of Islamic State militants and the near expulsion of Wagner PMC detachments from Syria. This requires the establishment of departmental units to replace them.

Given the strongholds supervised by Wagner in Syria, it is necessary to maintain air control over them, especially in light of the intensification of IS militants (source (https://t.me/rybar/53406)).

However, Hezbollah, Iran, and proxy formations do not necessarily require Russian drones. The Iranians already possess the knowledge and technology to target artillery and missiles at their desired objectives.

[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

AL JAZEERA:

We don’t know about anything that is happening in other districts in the territory. Maybe there are new bombardments taking place in these areas. We don’t know how many victims. We can only hear bombardments everywhere, but we don’t know any anything about the casualties, about the situation on the ground.

We don’t know anything also about the medical conditions of doctors, medical workers, even at the Al-Shifa Hospital [the largest in Gaza]. The situation is catastrophic right now. We can no longer communicate with the international community to send our voice to the world to know what is happening on the ground. I hope that this message might reach and have an access to the world despite what we have experienced throughout the last hour.

We are now in a hospital and we are going to be live by satellite as much as we can and every single hour. So please, if you can hear us, send that message to the world that we are isolated now in Gaza. We don’t have any phone signals. We don’t have any internet connections. We found great difficulty even to communicate and contact with our relatives in different parts of the territory.

Journalists here, even the citizens inside the hospital, they don’t have any access to the networks. They don’t have any kind of communication even with their neighbors. There is a great problem in the network connections. We don’t know how it’s dropped. We don’t know if it was targeted.

The situation on the ground is really terrible. Everyone is afraid, everyone is terrified. Please ,guys, if you can hear us send this message to the world that we are becoming isolated.

Al Jazeera currently only has sporadic communication with correspondents in Gaza following the latest strikes on the besieged enclave.

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[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago

Al Jazeera:

110 doctors and other medical staff killed so far: Gaza ministry

At least 110 medical staff in the Gaza Strip have been killed by Israeli shelling and air strikes since October 7, the health ministry says.

  • More than 100 medical staff have been injured
  • 50 ambulances have been attacked, half no longer functioning
  • 12 hospitals and 46 primary healthcare clinics have shut down because of damage from bombing or lack of fuel
  • 24 hospitals – with a bed occupancy of 2,000 – have been told to evacuate in northern Gaza
[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (5 children)
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[–] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago

US Embassy in Lebanon telling American citezens to GTFO

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

American advisers recommended that the Israeli military, during a ground operation in the Gaza Strip, limit itself to special forces raid operations with massive air support instead of a full-fledged invasion, which would lead to heavy losses and a threat to hostages.

The Pentagon called on the IDF to study the experience of the American army in battles with ISIS in Iraq. - CNN

Somehow everything suddenly began to heat up. Biden said: “I warn the Ayatollah: if our forces are attacked, we will respond, and he must be ready.” - Politico

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[–] sempersigh@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago

per The Guardian feed

Reuters writes from the UN HQ in Manhattan about Iran’s words to Israel’s close ally, the US:

I say frankly to the American statesmen, who are now managing the genocide in Palestine, that we do not welcome [an] expansion of the war in the region. But if the genocide in Gaza continues, they will not be spared from this fire,” Amirabdollahian told an emergency meeting of the 193-member General Assembly on the Middle East.

yeah yeah i'll believe it when i see it guy

[–] artificialset@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago

Hamas’s Qassam says it has ‘foiled ground incursion’ in northern Gaza (Al-Jazeera)

Hamas’s armed wing, the Qassam Brigades, say they have “foiled an Israeli ground incursion into Beit Hanoun and the east of Bureij,” adding that “violent clashes” are now taking place.

A senior Hamas official, Osama Hamdan, has said that Israel was attempting “to create an image of victory”.

“Cutting off communications from the Gaza Strip is an attempt to cover up the crimes of the [Israeli] occupation without any oversight or accountability,” Hamdan added

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (7 children)

— 🇮🇱/🇵🇸 BREAKING: 'Within 24 hours, we will move to expand the attack from the ground, sea and air' - Gallant

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