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Bulletins and News Discussion from October 23rd to October 29th, 2023 - Tunnel Vision (hexbear.net)

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Image is from this article.

Friendly reminder: when commenting about a news event, especially something that just happened, please provide a source of some kind. While ideally this would be on nitter or archived, any source is preferable to none at all given.

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.

Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.

The Country of the Week is still Palestine, though we will switch next week to a new country.

Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly (biweekly?) update is here.

Links and Stuff

The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.

Resources For Understanding The War

Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.

Last week's discussion post.

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[–] Des@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (15 children)

anybody have a theory on how escalation could go?

let's say like Hezbollah launches an assault while the IOF is bogged down trying to slog through Gazan streets. they push pretty hard against a token and demoralized IOF. the U.S. responds by targeting Hezbollah armored columns and support. Hezbollah succesfully strikes a U.S. carrier or escort with an Iranian anti-ship missile.

what could happen next? would this just wind up into a crazy mostly aerial, drone and missile conventional regional conflict? would the U.S. prepare for an invasion of Iran or Lebanon? would Russia decide to enter the skirmish if Syria is caught up?

what stage would tactical nuclear weapons possibly be considered?

and finally what would israel take to do a samson option and just decide to hurl 400 thermonuclear warheads in every direction, against friend and foe alike? and would the U.S. coup netanyahu or decapitate the Israeli strategic missile command (which i'm sure the U.S. knows EXACTLY where it is located) before they decide to just smash the table and end the world?

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago

Summary of last night's events that I generally think seems mostly true:

Local sources: There is no ground advance by the occupation army on the borders of the #Gaza Strip, and last night #Palestinian fighters succeeded in repelling #Israeli forces on more than one axis and forced them to retreat after allowing them to cross the border for a very short distance, where they fell into #Palestinian ambushes and fierce clashes took place, including the firing of rockets. #Palestinian anti-armor vehicles, and currently the occupation army vehicles are stationed behind sand barriers behind the border and are not visible to the eye

[–] BigBoyKarlLiebknecht@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

I was looking for a Tony Benn quote and stumbled on this classic interview with him during the 2009 Gaza Massacre. The BBC had refused to broadcast details of charities supporting people in Gaza, so he went full belligerent pensioner mode to get it on air. The way he runs rings around her while defending Hamas is chefs-kiss . Benn might have been a DemSucc, but it really shows flattened-bernie up as the fucking melt he is here

Edit: fuck, I found what I was looking for - “there’s no moral difference between a stealth bomber and a suicide bomber”. I forgot it was in the context of him calling John Bolton a war criminal and telling him that America is a declining empire. sicko-yes It’s also quite telling to hear the Syrian Ambassador to the UK saying “errr, guys, the border with Syria, terrorists guys, guys?”

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago

Libya expels the ambassadors of Britain, the United States, France and Italy from the country because of their governments’ position on the situation in Gaza.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The only good thing about the new speaker is his opposition to Ukraine aid.

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[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

York University student unions continuing to be cool

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago

🇸🇾💥🇺🇸 Reports that the US base at Al-Tanf, Syria was targeted by two drones.

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

New Hersh article

Netanyahoo won't/hasn't explained why there were no troops on the border. Hamas and Egyptian official are fighting for a cut of the UN supplies. No clear reasoning established for why Hamas is releasing hostages, but the supected reasoning is to either slow down the bombing and/or get more aid in. The raid went better than Hamas expected, but a lot of Palestinians who weren't "invited to the party" flowed out of Gaza once the walls had been breached and committed a lot of the actions that are being blamed on Hamas (but also some of the ones who were "invited" probably did some of it, too).

part 1

THE MYSTERIES OF OCTOBER 7 As Hamas releases hostages and Israel continues to bomb Gaza, many questions remain unanswered

A decade ago, while on a trip to the Middle East, my wife and I were sharing a pizza dinner in a Jerusalem hotel with an American journalist and a photographer who had just returned from a reporting visit to Gaza City. An anchorman for one of America’s television networks and his wife joined us. The journalist and photographer chatted at some point in Arabic with our waiter and that chatter prompted a middle-aged gentleman in a suit and tie who was dining alone to approach our table and ask if he could join. He explained that he was a US Army intelligence officer, a colonel, assigned to the American consulate in Jerusalem and his mission was to report on Gaza. The only problem, he said, was that he was not allowed to actually travel to Gaza and so when he overheard the journalists talking about their visit there, he wanted to know more.

We invited him to join, and the colonel got what was in effect a briefing on the deprivation and despair that the reporters had found.

Gaza and Hamas—the Islamist group that has led the territory since 2007—remain murky, confounding subjects today. Why did Hamas stage an early morning raid on October 7 in what turned out to be a series of unguarded kibbutzim in Israel south? Why were only a few Israelis Israeli soldiers on duty that morning?

We in the media do not know the full story. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is saying nothing about Israel’s failure to defend its citizens, although a number of leading generals have publicly apologized for their lapse, and Hamas has insisted that the mission it authorized was solely aimed at the capture of a few Israeli soldiers to be used for a possible prisoner exchange. Hamas operatives began the operation early on the morning of October 7 by blowing up the unguarded fences separating Gaza from Israel.

Hamas also has claimed that the bulk of the mayhem was caused by other terrorist groups and the aggrieved citizens of Gaza who flooded across the downed gates and fences, with no Israeli soldiers to stop them. It has been widely reported that Israel, at the instigation of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, was financing Hamas, via funds supplied by Qatar, in the belief that a strong Hamas would make a two-state solution, long sought by some in Washington, unlikely.

That is where we are today. Israel is now in the process of turning Gaza City into rubble, via constant bombing, and is also planning to begin a ground invasion in the near future. A well informed American official told me that the Israeli leadership is known to be considering flooding Hamas's vast tunnel system before sending in its troops, many of whom have had only a few weeks of training in the maneuvers and coordination required for the invasion. Such an act could mean that Israel was prepared to write off the hostages still in jeopardy.

Where the estimated two hundred-plus hostages are is an open question. Israel is only talking about the end of the Hamas regime, and Hamas has so far released four hostages. Two elderly Israelis were released yesterday, with no known demands.

The release was the second in three days. The first involved two Americans, a mother and her teenage daughter, who appeared to be in good health. All four were given over to the International Committee of the Red Cross. The American official told me that the Israel leadership expects more to come soon. The releases could be a sign that the Hamas leadership is feeling pressure because of the incessant bombing, which is widely assumed to be a precursor to an all-out Israel ground attack. They could also be a sign that Hamas is not going to let the Israeli bombing dictate its hostage policy. There have been secret talks about a larger release of Israeli prisoners since the first United Nations relief trucks began flowing from Egypt into southern Gaza, where up to a million hungry and thirsty refugees were waiting.

The complete aid shipment should have been delivered directly to the Red Cross representatives who are already in Gaza City, the American official told me, “but the Egyptian UN officials wanted a cut and so did Hamas.” The official said that after much back and forth late last week a deal was worked out. The distribution of the goods would be left in the hands of Red Cross officials in Gaza City, and Hamas would forward its share, the official said, to its fighters “in the tunnels and their families. The rest would go to cronies”—that is, to senior members of the Hamas leadership. In return, Hamas would release ten more hostages when the actual transfer of goods took place. It is not known whether the hostages to be released were to include any Americans.

The American official who outlined the bargaining involved did not know why the agreement fell apart. But he was dismissive of the greed involved. “The Egyptians and Palestinian factions were fighting for the relief goods,” he told me, “while the needy living without clean water and food will continue to suffer.”

One serious complication that has not been publicly discussed since the October 7 attack is that the Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, were not the sole attackers or collectors of hostages on a day in which there was no Israeli Army presence in the kibbutzim and villages under attack for at least eight hours.

“We know,” the American official told me, “that the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade participated.” He was referring to a coalition of Palestinian armed groups that have been designated as a terrorist organization by the United States, Israel, the European Union, and a number of other nations worldwide. (Hamas has also been designated a terrorist group by the US and the EU.)

“Was the attack a surprise to the Hamas civilian leadership? No. It was long in the planning and coordinated. The other crazies with a history of terrorism were enlisted to join forces. Did they expect success? No. Did the attacking force commit egregious atrocities? Yes. Was it unanticipated by Hamas? No. All involved proclaimed their intention and proved it in their tactics over the past twenty years. Will Israel react and destroy Hamas? Yes. Are they justified? Was the creation of a Jewish state justified? One person’s answer to the second question answers the first.” He went on: “Will the refugees die of starvation? No. Public sympathy for their genuine suffering will save the day.”

I heard a similar account of how the long-planned October 7 attack got out of control from a long-standing expert on Middle Eastern politics who has no access to American intelligence assessments. “The goal of the Palestinian operation,” he told me, “was exactly what happened—a shocking and inspired military operation that humiliated the Israelis and shook them to their foundation. Hamas military commanders had a map of bases [inside Israel] and wanted to take computer servers with all of the potentially compromising information they contained and would probably have sent them to Iran for analysis.”

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[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Per MoA:

Jake Sullivan, National Security Advisor and dimwit, had written a laudation of his own and his bosses foreign policy for the November print edition of Foreign Affairs. The piece was finalized before the war in Palestine had begun.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/system/files/pdf/2023/FA_102_6_ND2023_Sullivan_print_edition_version.pdf

this is 22 pages of drivel, truly putting the cope in cornucopia. here are some excerpts

spoiler

The Biden administration understands the new realities of power. And that is why we will leave America stronger than we found it.

The United States’ alliances and partnerships with other democracies have been its greatest international advantage. They helped create a freer and more stable world. They helped deter aggression or reverse it. And they meant that Washington never had to go it alone. But these alliances were built for a different era. In recent years, the United States was underutilizing or even undermining them. President Biden was clear from the moment he took over about the importance he attached to U.S. alliances, especially given his predecessor’s skepticism of them.

'other democracies' doing a lot of work there, winnowing down the world to the golf course countries. and of course the US is famous for never going it alone. they always find a way to cajole/coerce/threaten allies into contributing token support for idiotic projects.

For example, we have mobilized a global coalition of countries to support Ukraine as it defends itself against an unprovoked war of aggression and to impose costs on Russia. NATO has expanded to include Finland, soon to be followed by Sweden—two historically nonaligned nations. NATO has also adjusted its posture on its eastern flank, deployed a capability to respond to cyberattacks against its members, and invested in its air and missile defenses. And the United States and the EU have dramatically deepened cooperation on economics, energy, technology, and national security.

We didn't win in ukraine but hey at least finland and sweden are maybe joining NATO now. what a booby prize. and 'dramatically deepened cooperation on energy' yes indeed, ask the germans and the poles.

Roughly 20 NATO countries are on track to meet the target of spending two percent of their GDPs on defense in 2024, up from just seven countries in 2022.

and for this increase in spending we are producing even more weapons think tanks and conferences than ever before.

The first year of the COVID-19 pandemic showed that if the United States is unwilling to lead efforts to solve global problems, no one else will step into the breach. In 2020, many world leaders were barely on speaking terms. The G-7 struggled to coalesce when COVID-19 struck. Instead of coordinating closely, countries undertook disparate efforts that made the pandemic more severe than it might otherwise have been.

this is literally the stupidest thing I've ever read about the global response to COVID.

As a cornerstone of this effort, the administration is modernizing the World Bank so it can address today’s challenges with sufficient speed and scale, and we are working with partners to significantly increase the bank’s financing, including to low- and middle-income countries.

Now that we've jacked interest rates, we are taking advantage of the second volcker shock.

The Biden administration inherited a massive gap between ambition and reality when it comes to carbon mitigation. The United States is now driving the global deployment of clean energy technology at scale.

Insane head in the sand hubris, obviously the leader here is China and by miles and miles.

In addition to modernizing the World Bank, the president has also proposed giving developing countries a greater say at the International Monetary Fund. The administration will continue to try to reform the World Trade Organization so it can drive the clean energy transition, protect workers, and promote inclusive and sustainable growth while continuing to uphold competition, openness, transparency, and the rule of law.

are you still talking about keeping the US veto over world bank issues? yes? ok go fuck yourself. this is just about trying to cement developing nations to the anglosphere so they don't get drawn into China's sphere of influence.

...China’s breakneck military modernization and its growing military provocations in the East China and South China Seas and the Taiwan Strait.

damn dude why would china have military interests in the ocean immediately off its coast, damn

This transition [leaving afghanistan] was unquestionably painful—especially for the people of Afghanistan and for the U.S. troops and other personnel who served there.

do we have a saigon emoji?

Indeed, although the Middle East remains beset with perennial challenges, the region is quieter than it has been for decades.

data-laughing

His approach returns discipline to U.S. policy. It emphasizes deterring aggression, de-escalating conflicts, and integrating the region through joint infrastructure projects and new partnerships, including between Israel and its Arab neighbors. And it is bearing fruit.

Challenges remain. The Israeli-Palestinian situation is tense, particularly in the West Bank, but in the face of serious frictions, we have de-escalated crises in Gaza and restored direct diplomacy between the parties after years of its absence. Iran remains a threat, and its nuclear program a global challenge. We have acted militarily to protect U.S. personnel, and we have enhanced deterrence, combined with diplomacy, to discourage further aggression. We are committed to ensuring that Iran never obtains a nuclear weapon. And while military force must never be a tool of first resort, we stand ready and prepared to use it when necessary to protect U.S. personnel and interests in this important region.

Where did you come from where did you go, where did you come from Genocide Joe?

We sought to avert the crisis by making it clear to Russia that the United States would respond by supporting Ukraine and by displaying a willingness to engage in talks on European security, even though Russia was not serious about doing so.

Oh how did that willingness to engage go? I recall a bunch of unanswered diplomatic offers from Russia in Dec 2021.

And we imposed far-reaching sanctions on Russia to reduce its ability to wage war.

which failed spectacularly, as Russia has stepped up military production across the board

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Second Palestinian killed in latest Israeli raid in the occupied West Bank

The director of Jenin Governmental Hospital, Wissam Bakr, identified the second person killed early on Monday as Nawras Ibrahim Bawaji. He was 28 years old.

Bawaji and Amir Abdullah Sharbaji were both shot by Israeli forces during the raid, which we reported earlier near the Ibn Sina Hospital in Jenin.

At least nine other people were reported injured, according to the Palestinian news agency, Wafa.

Among those injured was a young man, who was hit by missile fragments following a drone strike on the home of the Qaniri family in Jenin.

A video posted by Al Jazeera Arabic on X, formerly Twitter, also showed a bulldozer in the process of destroying a gate in the Jenin refugee camp.

[The tweet - Nitter]

Meanwhile, Al Jazeera’s Charles Stratford, who is reporting form Ramallah, also in the occupied West Bank, confirmed from sources that at least 20 people were detained in a separate raid in the Palestinian territory.

Since the October 7 Hamas attack in Israeli, at least 114 people, including children, have been killed in the occupied West Bank. At least 1,600 have been arrested.

- Al Jazeera

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[–] DoobKIller@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Could I BE anymore dead?

(you'll find this funny within the next hour)

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[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Palestine Resist:

[Communications blackout.]

Most violent and unprecedented bombing seen since the beginning of the aggression. Belts of fire are used across the entire strip, focused on the north. Massive bombs are being dropped by many planes targeting homes, neighborhoods, and infrastructure.

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[–] BigBoyKarlLiebknecht@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago

Piers Morgan’s humiliation kink is on full display again

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Emphasis mine. I love how the NYT doesn't even bother to explain. But in so doing for libs who are actually thinking the settlers seem like a direct extension of the Israeli state.

Four more Palestinians were killed by Israeli forces in the Israeli-occupied West Bank overnight into Friday as violence continues to rise, the Palestinian Health Ministry said. Since Oct. 7 at least 110 Palestinians have been killed and another 1,900 wounded in clashes with Israeli forces or attacks by settlers, the ministry said.

The U.N. Office for Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs said it had recorded a significant increase in Israeli settler attacks against Palestinians and their property in the occupied territory since Oct. 7, with at least 146 such attacks. The agency added that amid the increase in violence at least 82 Palestinian households, comprising 607 people, have been displaced from their homes.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/27/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news/939bf05a-51a2-5fab-8741-6982f76d295e?smid=url-share

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Per CNN just now: The Detroit synagogue stabbing was not hate motivated.

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[–] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Siemens Energy shares plunge as it seeks government bailout

The German government is in talks to provide a multibillion-euro bailout to the engineering company Siemens Energy to shore up its balance sheet amid increasing problems at its wind turbine division.

Shares in the company, one of the world’s biggest makers of wind turbines, plunged by almost 40% to all-time lows on the German stock exchange, wiping €3bn from its market value, after reports emerged that it was in talks to secure government guarantees as part of a €15bn rescue package.

A bailout could result in the German state taking responsibility for 80% of an initial €10bn funding tranche, while banks would be liable for the remaining 20%, according to reports in the German press.

The engineering group’s parent company, the industrial firm Siemens, has reportedly been asked to guarantee a second tranche of the remaining €5bn.

The talks were confirmed by a German government spokesperson who described them as “close and trustworthy”.

Shares in Siemens Energy have fallen by almost 70% since June when it revealed there were escalating challenges in its wind turbine arm, Siemens Gamesa, caused by a string of technical problems as well as higher costs due to the inflation.

The cost of correcting the technical faults, which have affected its newest onshore wind turbine models, are expected to drive the company to a €4.5bn loss this year. It is reportedly concerned that the scale of the losses means it may struggle to secure guarantees needed to support a growing order book from its usual banking partners.

Siemens Energy said the company was “evaluating various measures” to strengthen its balance sheet and was in preliminary talks with stakeholders including banks and the German government.

It added that the wind business was “working through the quality issues”.

It expects its order intake and revenue to be lower than market expectations for the 2024 fiscal year while it pauses new work on onshore wind orders and is selective about offshore wind orders. Meanwhile, net losses and cash outflow are expected to be higher than market forecasts.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (7 children)

American officials told ABC: The United States is pressuring #Israel to adopt a narrower scope of its attack and adopt a gradual approach.

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[–] NoLeftLeftWhereILive@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (7 children)

A new "The media did nothing wrong" think piece, including the totally mindblowing conclusion that the hospital was bombed by Israel (duh).

https://sethabramson.substack.com/p/from-start-to-finish-major-media

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[–] Zrc@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

fucking feds have seized paltoday.tv sicko-wistful

where tf am i supposed to get my dope ass resistance pictures now

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[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

At least 110 people have been killed, including women and children, as a result of several Israeli air raids across the Gaza Strip late on Monday and before dawn on Tuesday, a medical source told Al Jazeera.

In the last few hours, Israeli air strikes were reported in northern Gaza’s al-Shati refugee camp and al-Balad in Jabalia as well as two areas in the south, Rafah and Khan Younis

Palestinian news agency WAFA also confirmed the news, saying that the highest number of casualties was in Rafah with more than 30 people killed.

Medical sources also told WAFA that at least 23 people were killed, including children, and more than 80 others wounded in Khan Younis. Many of the victims in Khan Younis were taken to the al-Nasser Hospital.

Dozens were also reported killed in the strike on the al-Shati refugee camp.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

watching Palestinians whose Twitter accounts I have followed for years - both regular citizens and journalists - go from posts of desperation about the current hell in Gaza to silence and then the announcement of their deaths is a modern horror I don't really have the words for

Nitter

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Aljazeera' s brave veteran journalist Wael Dahdouh's wife, son and daughter were killed in an Israeli airstrike which targeted a shelter house they had fled to. Wael received the news while on air covering the nonstop Israeli strikes on Gaza!

Nitter

There are two raw video clips at the link.

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

At the rate things are going those Oct 7th POWs are gonna cause a civil war in Israel

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (5 children)

🔴Kan Hebrew Channel:

Israel informed the mediators that it is ready to consider a large-scale prisoner deal with the Gaza Strip, leading to the release of a large number of israelis, this is what a political official familiar with the ongoing talks with Qatar, Egypt and other mediators told the channel.

According to reports in various media outlets, Hamas is demanding the transfer of fuel to Gaza, the release of Palestinian prisoners, and a ceasefire - and the political official replied: “Things are approaching the moment of maturity, and we will soon know where they are headed.”

Potential direction of current talks might be crucial.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

BREAKING: Thousands of Israeli soldiers have entered Gaza - Spectator Index

Not sure how true tbh

[–] darkmode@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Breaking news from Italy:

Giorgia Meloni is newly single, now is the time for any daring posters to fix her and Italy.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

Chris Hayes "interviewed" a Norwegian doctor about the dire situation involving hospitals in Gaza. I didn't time the segment and I was listening to it the background. I have no idea how long it was. 5 minutes? Hayes hardly asked any questions. At the end of the "interview" - he didn't miss a step he thanked the doctor for his time and quickly moved on to the next segment.

TV news often goes hours speaking elliptically about the fucking "humanitarian crisis" in Gaza in passive constructions. When they they finally sort of cover the horror - Hayes's segment is typical. I think I'm beyond angry to something like nausea. In private I hope he at least acknowledges that he's a soulless corporate husk that's addicted to his sweet, sweet MSNBC compensation package so he doesn't rock the boat. But I wonder if he even does that.

The next segment was about the hostages and I changed the channel before the flood of questions started.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (3 children)

https://streamable.com/if98x0

🇵🇸❌🇮🇱 — On October 21, 2023, the Al-Quds Brigades, the military wing of Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), published a propaganda video, threatening the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) against a ground invasion of Gaza

During the footage, Al-Quds Brigades fighters are seen moving inside the underground tunnels of Gaza, as well resting and reading the Quran preparing for a possible battle inside the Bunkers that exist under Gaza strip

According to War Noir (https://t.me/war_noir/13525), PIJ fighters are armed with AK-103-2 rifles (from 🇱🇾 Libya), 🇷🇸 Yugoslavian M70B1 rifle with a rare silencer/suppressor, RPG-7 Launchers with PG-7V/M rockets, 🇨🇳 Chinese Type 56-1 rifles, PKM/Type 80 machine guns, AKM rifles and explosives/grenades.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wall Street Journal: American officials said that the threats facing American forces constitute a source of grave concern

The Wall Street Journal reported on American officials: American forces in the region will be targeted as soon as the ground incursion into Gaza begins.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

Getting next to no info on Gaza tonight. Not sure if an operation is happening or not.

Tonnes happening in the west bank though. It's so scattered it's hard to make much sense of it however.

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