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~~Probably a boring answer but~~ I know my grandmother's credit card information. I live with and help take care of her, so she doesn't mind sharing it with me. Not like I'm planning to do anything nefarious, but I guess technically it could ruin her financially.

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[–] Saigonauticon@voltage.vn 95 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Lawyers, accountants, and software engineers accumulate these things like you wouldn't believe. We can't tell you about current secrets, only stale ones.

I once knew that the top level password used at a corporation valued at 6 billion dollars was 'password123'. They had no backups, no VPN, and that password was used at all the high-value access points. It's since been fixed, but it was that for years.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's since been fixed, but it was that for years.

I like that this implies you regularly checked

[–] Saigonauticon@voltage.vn 2 points 2 years ago

Regularly had to use it to do work I was contracted to do.

Company went public one day, they restructured massively to become more efficient. I imagine that kind of stuff stopped then, but don't really know.

[–] Cinner@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

"What the CEO wants, the CEO gets" - head of IT doing nothing for 300k/yr

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 77 points 2 years ago (3 children)

That I've had to turn down some really cool overseas job opportunities. I couldn't tell my kids that I even got the job offers because their mother (my ex wife) refuses to consider the move and how we'd need to share the kids time with them overseas.

If I told the kids (now late teens) that their dream of living overseas was stymied so far by their mother's recalcitrance they might disown her, at least for a while.

It really sucks because not only don't I get to take the jobs, but I also have to hide my excitement at even getting the offer from my own family so that I can maintain my kids' relationship with their mother.

[–] Balthazar@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

A hidden hero.

[–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

There's hopefully some context you're leaving out for the sake of privacy or something, but... Why would your ex consider a move to Europe for your work? I wouldn't even expect my wife to be 100% on board with uprooting her entire life to move halfway across the world.

[–] deur@feddit.nl 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I dont think they're saying they expect her to. They appear to just be describing what's happening.

As to why, probably custody arrangements and anti-kidnapping laws and treaties.

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[–] sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah I can see how this is complicated.

I don't see why you don't share that you got the job offer and then tell your kids that you'll have to work out custody arrangements with their mother. And then share with the kids how those discussions go. I think they're old enough (as teens) to have a say in those discussions, as well as be privy to how they go.

There's no reason they shouldn't see it unfold in front of them; just make sure that you're never the one to specifically say "your mother won't work anything out with me so moving overseas with me would mean I never see you again"

[–] SeeJayEmm@lemmy.procrastinati.org 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is a passive aggressive and shitty thing to do.

Not wanting your kids to be moved overseas and only see them half the year is a normal reaction. Most teenagers are mature enough to see through the veil that mom is the reason they can't go but not mature enough to truly understand why. They'd blame her regardless.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

Yes, this advice about β€œjust don’t be the one to say …” is 100% about covering OP’s own ass and not at all about it being the right thing to do.

Slimy.

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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 69 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

I have a lot of relatives who look to me for tech support. I used to have them choose their own passwords, or tell them to change it if I set one for them (they never change it). Then, inevitably, I'd have to help them reset those passwords the very next time they need to log in on a new device, or their sessions expire.

I tried to set them up with password managers, and some picked it up (my siblings). Others quickly forgot their master password, meaning I then had to sort out recovering ALL their various accounts.

Once I literally used a known exploit to hack into an old android tablet that my youngest sibling managed to forget the screen-lock for.

Now I just shamelessly save a bunch of other people's passwords, pin-codes and other access details using my password manager, because they literally do not care. And it's straight up more secure than the post-it notes some of them would use if I let them. They know I do this, I've made it clear that if they want my help but won't follow my advice when I'm not there, making my life harder, further help comes with giving me unreasonable levels of access to their digital lives.

I've never misused it, and I never will. I take steps to be extra secure because I know I'm a single point of failure should my password database ever be breached somehow. But I could ruin dozens of lives.

[–] ebc@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Writing passwords down isn't that bad, actually. We humans are very good at securing little pieces of paper; just put the one you wrote your password on with the other valuable pieces of paper, in your wallet.

It's "sticking the post-it note to the computer screen" that's the problem.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Picked up a keyboard from the thrift store with a pink Post It on the back.

user: admin

pass: password

Who the hell needs to write that down?!

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[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just in theory, could you be held accountable if they did something illegal and you have access to that stuff?

[–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I see the scenario. If I gave you the key to my place then I murdered someone in it, are you accountable for any of it?

[–] lattrommi@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Here's a scenario: You have the password to my paypal account. The police arrest me for an unrelated public indecency charge after I urinate on the local government courthouse building. The account is then used to purchase illegal drugs from another country while I am in custody. Having no access to my account or the internet, I could not have made the purchase. The police learn of this purchase when customs detects a strong odor from a package and decide to inspect it, finding a massive hoard of marijuana and jenkem. the police are alerted and ask me, the account owner, who else has access to the account. Me, under duress and probably having shitty withdrawals, tell them everything i know about you, specifically things that might implicate you. As the only known person with access and having no alibi for the time period, you are then arrested for suspicion of involvement in an international crime ring. After searching your computer they find a VPN and TOR and then you are sequestered in a secret military prison and forced to do the chicken dance naked until you confess to every unsolved crime ever.

While this scenario might be far-fetched, hyperbolic and not really accountability per se, it is a plausible worry some people may have. Just playing devils advocate here.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you're using bitwarden or keepass then it should be safe. Anything else is asking for trouble.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Self-hosted and entirely under my control, yes. Any other manager that encrypts the store in a way where even when breached it's not useful, should also be safe...

But truly knowing is best.

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

The problem with that is that you can never truly know that they actually do that unless the clients are open source.

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[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] z00s@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] lowmane@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] CopernicusQwark@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] chardiemacdennis@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] the_q@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] sour@kbin.social 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

i know someone whose husband…

hummmmmmmm

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago
[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I have to ask if you don't mind telling: How did you find out and is your dad the only one who doesn't know?

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago
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[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I know someone whose husband thinks her daughter is his but she isn't. (She isn't my daughter either lol.)

[–] Iamdanno@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (4 children)

You should tell him. That's fucked up.

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[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Man, for me it would be funny to do the opposite question.

"What secret do you know that could fix someone else's life?"

I would tell half my family that they are a bunch of conservative hypocrites and that they waste so much f*king money showing others they have money. (Expensive cars, clothing and stuff).

Maybe if they stopped wasting money and being so critical of others, they would have actual friends and lasting relationships.

Sorry, i needed to vent.

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[–] backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Jokes on you, people don't tell me shit, I only know secrets that could ruin my own life

[–] Catsrules@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also fun fact if you forget your secrets that would also probably ruin your life as well.

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[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 19 points 2 years ago

An IT company I used to work for stored the domain admin credentials for hundreds of client's WSAD/AzureAD tenants on a pastbin document. When I explained how outrageous that was they deleted the file and changed all the passwords.

To the same password.

Which I still know.

And it still works.

EIGHT YEARS LATER.

[–] Wenchette@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm a financial services professional with access to so much info that could be used for identity theft and other nefarious purposes. I've been doing this forever and still feel weird asking people for their checking account info.

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Ex was flamboyantly gay.

The amount of straight men in relationships who will approach gay men for sex is much higher than you think.

Multiple coworkers were in his dms and he probably got propositioned weekly from people who would generally be negative towards gay people.

All it takes is a screenshot and a dm to a spouse.

[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

The shame makes it better.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

I mentioned before "spelunking" is something that is common amongst people I know, and some friends once caused a collapse because something overheated, damaging a huge source of pride.

But nobody on Lemmy will connect the dots, right? Right?

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