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Image is of the Herðubreið tuya in northeast Iceland, formed when ice sheets covered Iceland thousands of years ago. It's not really relevant to the Grindavik situation but I think they look neat. The title also doesn't make much sense but I saw the pun and took it.


Off in Iceland, different kinds of tunnels are causing problems. Underneath the town of Grindavik in southwestern Iceland, not far from the capital of Reykjavik, tens of thousands of earthquakes are portending the movement of magma in tunnels underneath the peninsula, which could breach the surface and cause an eruption. The 4000 residents of the town have been evacuated as the magma has risen to less than a kilometer below the surface.^TRG^

Icelandic volcanism is pretty fascinating, with the country sitting on the mid-Atlantic ridge, the birthing line of new oceanic crustal rock running right down the Atlantic ocean for many thousands of kilometers, as well as a hotspot, an upwelling of mantle material of debated origin which also feeds otherwise-inexplicable volcanism in the middle of tectonic plates, like Yellowstone and Hawaii.

An additional factor here is the presence of glaciers. When a volcano erupts underneath a glacier, the melting water cools the lava rapidly, causing features usually seen in volcanoes that erupt under the sea like pillow basalts, but also unique features like tuyas, which are steep-sided but flat-topped volcanoes. The rapid melting of water can also cause glacial floods called jökulhlaups.

Icelandic volcanoes have had significant regional and even global impacts in the past. In 2010, the volcano Eyjafjallajökull, which was a volcano covered by an ice cap, erupted and the ash cloud spread across Europe, causing airline disruption for about a month which caused nearly $2 billion in total losses for airline companies - though this seems pretty quaint compared to the pandemic's impact on airlines in retrospect. Back in the 1780s, the Laki volcano killed a quarter of the Icelandic population due to sulphur dioxide causing massive crop failure and cattle death. This eruption's impacts spread to Europe and beyond, causing notable worldwide temperature drops and thus crop failures and may well have been a contributing factor to the outbreak of the French Revolution, which obviously heralded the death of the feudal order and the eventual primacy of capitalism in its place. That being said, any eruption at Grindavik is very probably not going to have any significant worldwide impacts - there are over a hundred volcanoes already in Iceland, and regular climate change is doing a great job at causing mayhem right now anyway. It's also still possible that there won't be an eruption at all, at least not in the short to medium term.


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More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Iceland! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.

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Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

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https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

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https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

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https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

The IDF and Hamas are moving closer to a deal to free the hostages that would include a long pause in fighting.

CNN reports this.

Also, US President Joe Biden said that, in his opinion, an agreement could be reached on the release of hostages captured during the Hamas attacks on Israel on October 7.

“I talked to the people involved every single day. I believe this will happen. But I don’t want to go into detail,” Biden told reporters at the White House.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

"Anyone trying to leave the hospital is being shot."

A journalist in Gaza has a short Twitter thread about the Indonesian Hospital.

Intense bombing - tanks surrounding the Indonesian Hospital. Anyone trying to leave the hospital is being shot. Huge explosions and live ammunition heard - according to people in the hospital The Israeli forces targeted the Kuwait School beside the Indonesian Hospital- thousands of displaced people took the place as a shelter.

Killings and Injuries reported. Latest photo from the Indonesian Hospital

NSFL - https://nitter.net/Hind_Gaza/status/1726449560426619022#m

There's a seriously NSFL photo and in Nitter there's no warning or way to hide it.

A reply

Hamas terrorists are coming out shooting and being shot you mean?

Oh, boy. [Redacted]

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

Maybe Tim Scott dropped out because his fictional girlfriend dumped him.

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have been kinda busy the last few days. Reading through the latest comments here, I'm kinda confused about the OBL letter thing. I thought the obvious take here was they they took it down because the US and Israel are using the same logic as OBL to justify killing Palestinian civilians. Is that not the take the left is going with?

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[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

TBh Im mixed on the idea of the OBL thing as a psyop, it seemed to sputter out too quick to actually be any sort of intentional act to smear anyone by association.

Like yeah twitter account got mad about it but its not like I've seen any like big people twitter accounts get mad about it or continually use it as a talking point against Palestinians. That one thing when a bunch of separate small hasbara accounts each started talking about how Israel cannot be settler colonial due to the "lack of a metropole" was a much more obvious sort of psyop where you could sense that there was organization behind it.

Edit: If anything looking through the articles and general media response on this, if it is a psyop it is an anti-tiktok psyop. Near every article focuses mainly on tiktok as a platform that allowed this to happen and what tiktok now is doing to counteract or minimize it. The users who shared and discussed the letter are framed as small accounts or "some/about a dozen young americans."

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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Fucking Bukele (a Salvadoran of Palestinian descent) referred to Hamas as "savage beasts" and compared them to MS-13. Then he bragged about his police state cracking down on MS-13.

This was said right after October 7th and I only just found out about it. Doubt he's changed his mind much.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Thonks stonks-down of the day: china should ease immigration like yesterday, they could slowly absorb lots of people. Although they dick around with their porkies by allowing high youth unemployment stonks-down But aside from employment, even if they take 1 million refugees a year, they'll get like 2-3 percent of non-native population

Doing matty y only its about 10 billion chinese

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Part of a NYT update

The Israeli military forged ahead with its raid on Gaza’s largest hospital Wednesday afternoon, storming the complex and interrogating people inside, in a significant step that could shape the pace and extent of its war with Hamas.

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By the afternoon, the senior Israeli military official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the ongoing operation, said that soldiers were interrogating people, one of whom may have been a Hamas member, in part of the hospital.

[...]

Because of the communications disruption, The New York Times could not reach anyone at the hospital to verify either side’s assertions.

The entire update

Troops interrogate people inside Al-Shifa Hospital, an Israeli official says.

The Israeli military was solidifying its hold on the Gaza Strip’s largest hospital on Wednesday, after storming the complex overnight. Soldiers were conducting searches and interrogations inside, in a significant step that could shape the pace and extent of its war with Hamas.

The hospital, Al-Shifa in Gaza City, has become central to Israel’s 40-day effort to wrest control of Gaza from Hamas. Israel says that Hamas built a military command center beneath the hospital, using its patients and staff as human shields, a charge that Hamas and hospital administrators deny.

The capture of Al-Shifa, along with whatever evidence the Israelis produce of Hamas’s military presence there, could affect international sentiment about the invasion as well as the continuing negotiations to free the hostages captured by Hamas last month. Gazan authorities said Wednesday that the Israelis were in control of the complex.

Israeli soldiers briefly exchanged fire with gunmen outside the hospital before going in, a senior military official said, but more than 12 hours after it began, the operation appeared more like a police raid than a pitched battle.

One senior Israeli official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a continuing operation, said that troops were interrogating people inside the hospital and had found weapons, but declined to provide evidence or further details.

A Palestinian man inside a surgery building at hospital complex said word had spread among the people there of interrogations and searches, including excavations, and that a tight cordon of Israeli armored vehicles had closed around the hospital.

Little information was available on Wednesday afternoon, as communications were disrupted in Gaza City.

Palestinian officials, the heads of United Nations agencies and some Mideast regional leaders condemned the raid, warning that it risked the lives of Gaza’s most vulnerable.

For years, Israel has said that Hamas built a military command center beneath the hospital, turning its patients into human shields.

To Palestinians, Al-Shifa Hospital is a civilian institution that for weeks has served as a refuge for thousands of displaced Gazans in addition to the gravely ill and wounded. Hamas and the hospital’s leadership deny its use as a military base.

The Israeli military invaded Gaza last month after roughly 1,200 people were killed in Hamas-led attacks on Israel on Oct. 7. Since then, Israeli airstrikes have killed more than 11,000 Palestinians in Gaza, according to Gazan health officials — one of the largest tolls in any air campaign this century.

Early on Wednesday, the Israeli army said it had launched “a precise and targeted operation against Hamas in a specified area in the Shifa Hospital.” It said that its goal was not to harm civilians, and that it had sent incubators, Arabic speakers and medical supplies and personnel to join the operation.

The Hamas-run government media office in Gaza said in a statement, that the Israeli soldiers had beaten patients and displaced people sheltering at the hospital and had expelled others from the complex.

Muhammad Zaqout, a senior health Gazan official, said in a news briefing that the Israeli soldiers had first entered part of a surgery department before later taking control of the radiology and cardiology departments.

Because of the communications disruption, The New York Times could not reach hospital administrators. The Palestinian man interviewed by telephone in the surgery building at the hospital said he had not heard of anyone being beaten.

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

Well, I guess that means Mercosur-EU Deal is dead. I hope they follow Paraguay's plan to make a trade deal with Japan and China.

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

MercoPress: Argentina and Chile sign key lithium agreement

Lithium OPEC (OLEC?) is under construction.

Authorities from Argentina and Chile Friday signed a Memorandum of Understanding to establish a Binational Lithium and Salt Flats Working Group which represents a significant step towards strategic cooperation in this regard, it was reported in Santiago and Buenos Aires following negotiations dating back to June 2022.

The new document provides for the exchange of experiences between companies and scientific teams, as well as the formation and training of human resources in the lithium industry, it was explained. It also addresses key aspects such as environmental, economic, and social sustainability, human resources training, and value addition in the lithium industry.

[–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Why can't Russia supplant American production of corn and soybean?

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