ComradeSalad

Because that's not British food? That's food that was brought over from colonized peoples? That's like going to a truly authentic Japanese restaurant in Brazil and saying, "That was the best Brazilian food I've ever had".

Also that second one looks... interesting. Its nice to know that seasoning is still a mystery to the British isles.

Not really, no. The trains running from those stations are mostly newer, cleaner, and quieter. Especially dedicated lines such as the cross river Jersey-WTC line which drops you off in a luxury apartment area in Jersey.

You don't give the rich enough credit. They will make sure to cater to themselves as much as possible.

Plus the platforms are kept especially clean and polished, and any aesthetical defects such are cracks are solved quickly. The walls are usually tiled as well, the ceilings finished, and the rails aren't left bare.

You can even see a nice group of piggies!

It also didn't always look that way. The oncoming wall used to be unfinished an unsightly, but they tiled it up and added some art for decoration. This is how it used to look, the first picture shows the finished wall.

I agree.

It’s a damned if you do, damned if you don’t scenario.

These stations need to be upgraded, repaired, and overhauled, but it’s not as simple as “close these stations down and invent a magical bus system for the time bieng”. It’s an extremely sensitive situation and I don’t feel like people are understanding. It’s not that it shouldn’t happen, but the level of disruption would be catastrophic for thousands of people. It’s a bad situation.

This isn’t an “America is big” problem?

What is the population density of New York vs Moscow?

New York is 27,000 per square kilometer. Moscow is around 8.5 thousand.

Combine that extreme density with infrastructure that was built hundreds of years ago, and additionally several chokepoints at only a few major bridges and tunnels.

I’m not making excuses. I mean currently with the resources and systems available, it is not possible.

You’re right, the government does not care about public transit.

Do you think this is a group decision or something?

“Local incompetence? Lack of political will? Fuck off, I'm sure the people working 50 hours a week and poverty wage jobs are absolutely roaring with energy to fight for public transit.

Imagine blaming the people.

No poors allowed.

Those stations are crawling with cops as well. I have seen homeless people basically be beat to hell and dragged off for daring to enter those stations.

There are benches though, thankfully. Just good luck using them if you don’t look like you’re a multimillionaire.

Trust me. The city may as well not have a bus system. It exists in name only, and I would not trust it to get me anywhere.

I agree wholeheartedly, about the adoption, but those types of upgrades and repairs happen quickly and with minimal invasiveness as to not cause disruption. I was arguing against the wholesale shutting down of stations to run repairs and leave tens of thousands completely stuck and screwed over.

It’s like trying to find the good in apartheid South Africa. Something positive must be there (the music), but overall, it’s not good.

I disagree completely. Plus that's extremely vague, "Overall its not good". Ok and? Your solution was to abandon everything, so you don't seem like the best arbiter to make judgements like that. Also, that's still extremely dismissive and asinine. Discoveries, inventions, systems, and events in the US have completely reshaped several aspects of the world over the past 50 years for better of for worse. To try and associate that to a positive like South African music is bizarre. I'm sure South African music has had an equal effect on the world as the smartphone did, the literal internet, a long list of medical discoveries and drugs, breakthroughs and innovation across multiple sectors and so on.

How was that done? On the backs of workers who created and developed everything on the enormous list of accomplishments in the past 50 years. Does this mean the US is amazing? No. The system and leadership is still rotten to the core. But to say "Oops, can't think of a single thing", is extremely bad faith arguing.

Do you really think the working class of the US has not done anything? The list of negatives we associate with the US all come from it's system and leadership up above in some respect, not down below.

That’s what the subway stations in many of the poorer Burroughs and underfunded areas look like. On the tip of Manhattan or throughout most of Queen the stations can be beautiful. Full granite and marble, extremely clean, new trains, and so on. Why? Those stations are used mostly by the ultra wealthy.

Fulton Station

World Trade Center Station

NYC public transit in the 70’s was like a Mad Max war zone.

I wish 😔