It doesn't matter how many westerners do or don't believe something. A claim without evidence can be dismissed without evidence regardless.
Where are the piles of corpses that the PLA supposedly created that day? Please show me.
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saying Tiananmen Square massacre never happened is an extraordinary claim and therefore is going to require extraordinary evidence
You got the concept completely backwards. The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim, not on others to disprove.
Saying that soldiers gunned down a bunch of unarmed protestors is the extraordinary claim here, and it's the one that lacks evidence. A picture of bicycles and of one man standing in front of a tank is not evidence of a massacre. If there's better evidence out there then please provide it.
Thank you, comrade Oppo! You too!
That's a shame.
Israel will never willingly give up the land they stole, the core of Zionist ideology is settler colonialism. The high court and the mainstream opposition parties made it clear that they are neither willing to let Jewish people coexist with Palestinians as equals nor dismantle the oppressive Zionist state.
It is very short-sighted of you to claim that the only way to return land to their rightful owners is by voting for people who explicitly don't want to do that.
Calling it an argument is giving that phrase too much credit. In reality it is nothing more than a cliche to get people to stop thinking about why they can't have nice things.
Still, if you want to debunk it, you can point to the many examples of socialism being successful: Compare the quality of life in places like Russia and China before and after the communist revolution (and in the case of Russia, the quality of life after counter-revolution), the scientific accomplishments, etc.
If you want to take the opportunity to properly deprogram someone who said this to you, try to get them to ask the age old question: Qui Bono? "Communism sounds nice but doesn't work in reality" is a mantra that was made with the purpose of getting people to stop thinking it's possible to build a more equitable world. Sounds awfully convenient for the landlords and billionaires who profit from the current system, doesn't it?
As a final point, here are some short videos that can help people understand that socialism does work, and works better than capitalism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tmi7JN3LkA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEwojLs0PFw
Also a study on physical quality of life between economic systems:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1646771/pdf/amjph00269-0055.pdf
But have you considered that they hate the government, not the people?
Reminds me of when NYT tweeted a picture of gold medals per country, and they shrunk the pics of China's medals. Possibly to make the gap less noticeable?
Redditors thinking China moderates Reddit will never not be funny to me.
I briefly watched some of S4A's video analyzing his 'debate' with Richard Wolff. The guy is a total dickhead, and he has no idea what he's talking about, he's clearly just one of those Ben Shapiro type debate bros. The man can't even form his own arguments, he straight up repeats what his twitch chat tells him during the live debate.
Strongly recommend everyone read Capitalist Realism by Mark Fisher if you have the time. People in the west have it thoroughly ingrained into their heads that governments can not act in the people's interest, that they simply cannot imagine that a government does. Especially not one like China which is constantly slandered as 'authoritarian'.
That book is excellent for explaining that phenomenon.
Lots of respect for you, my friend.