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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/Juicyjackson on 2025-05-21 02:03:36+00:00.


I always see people saying the US needs more wagons, and so i decided to go check out the sales numbers of one of the cooler wagons on the market, the Volvo V60 and V90. Both absolutely incredible looking with great performance, and a good price tag...

Total sales for 2024: 2452...

1,920 for the V60 Cross Country. 532 for the V90 Cross Country.

Maybe if you all actually went out and bought wagons, they would sell more of them...

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Found the front-end of the new RAV4 via an unlisted, private YouTube video ahead of tomorrow's May 21st full review. The thumbnail shows it plainly, and it's directly from Toyota!

Image here (couldn't upload via Reddit due to community rules)

https://imgur.com/a/SZ11hx3

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For many years I've been friendly acquaintances with a well-off businessman who's owned several prize vehicles. My best bud, who introduced me to him, did all the mechanical work on them.

The first time we took the guy's '66 Shelby GT350 out on a test drive, two rough-looking goombas in a beat up 2nd-gen Camry nearly T-boned us. When my buddy laid on the horn and yelled at them, they just gave him a blank expression. Several years later, when he passed his '66 GTO down to his son, somebody made a left turn in front of him. $7K worth of body and frame work later, the goat is back.

Meanwhile, my buddy's boss has a '62 Corvette that had its front end demolished when he got cut off by a Suburban. In his case, having a 500HP 383 stroker with factory drum brakes definitely didn't help. Finally, we know another guy with a heavily restomodded '68 Camaro convertible that's been wrecked THREE times. The guy is great with finance and investments ( that's his job ), but he drives like a baboon. Every time he screws something ELSE up, he just drags the carcass over to my buddy's house and whips out his checkbook LOL.

Do any of you guys ever worry about anything like this happening to YOUR rides? Or did it happen already?

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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/Crocodile_Banger on 2025-05-20 20:51:22+00:00.


Let’s imagine the CEO of a car company holds a press conference to make one huge announcement. Which one would probably cause the biggest outrage among car enthusiasts? My picks are something like:

  • The next Miata will be a small electric SUV
  • the next Porsche 911 will be front engine front wheel drive (Diesel only)
  • the next Ford F-150 will be a badge engineering joint venture with the Chevrolet Silverado

What else comes to mind?

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The original was posted on /r/cars by /u/cookingboy on 2025-05-19 23:19:34+00:00.


I posted this to the Porsche sub but I thought I might ask here as well.

I've been doing some car shopping recently (want to buy something special by mid next year), and I noticed that 992.1 GT3 prices have gone up an insane amount recently. Most cars on AutoTrader now sit at close to $300k, if not more. Similar milage GT3s now cost 90% as much as a Ferrari 296GTB, and more than 488s and even Huracans EVOs.

I've always liked the car, but I don't remember the GT3 being nearly as special of a road car as the 488, let alone the 296.

And from what I heard on the grapevine between the new Porsche price and ADM, new GT3 allocations are pushing $400k now.

I like the car, and it may be an unpopular opinion, but imo a GT3 isn't close to be worth $300-400k. A 488/Huracan/720S are far more special (and arguably better) road cars.

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Road & Track:

"The refreshed RZ EV will hit 60 mph in just 4.1 seconds."

What do you guys think of this?

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It looks like not a lot of the English-speaking community has picked this up, so I wanted to do a quick write up.

So, for the headline crash: during the Hyundai N Festival N2 Cup Masters championship, a massive 4-car crash happened at an estimated 110km/h: https://youtu.be/7LcXpZj4IY8?t=16818 (timestamped; 4:40:22 if it doesn't work)

Note car 017 is the first to crash; you can see them spinning out shortly after cutting to the drone view.

Unfortunately, while nobody was killed, there are rumors that one racer has suffered 3 fractured bones.

Now for some context behind the drama:

The Hyundai N Festival

This is an annual event sponsored by Hyundai (and a few other companies like Kumho tire) and operated by "Playground" (just a separate LLC sponsored by Hyundai) where they have sponsor booths, food trucks, showcasing cars, etc. The highlight of the festival are the spec race series.

There are three classes: eN1, N1, and N2. eN1 is run with moderately modified Ioniq 5N chassis with a rollcage, suspension, brakes, widebody, and mild aero.. N1 is similarly modified, but with Elantra N instead

N2 Cup Woes

N2 is the problem child. N2 is a mostly stock Elantra N with a bucket seat, half-rollcage, steering wheel, brake pads, and a spec semislick tire.

No suspension modification of any kind, nor brake modifications are allowed. The point is that Hyundai is marketing a mostly-stock Elantra N can be driven in a wheel to wheel race and still be okay--if you're active in the US track scene, in fact it mostly is... on a track day.

Since the series began, the N2 cup was shrouded in some hot water. Almost every year, there was an incident where tires were debeading off of the wheels. While nobody has publicly blasted Hyundai for these spec rules, it's pretty obvious that stock suspension with stock roll stiffness causes way too much camber loss and thus too much rollover unless you run fairly high tire pressures. If you watch the original video and wind back to some random point in the N2 race, you will see how bad the tire rollover is.

The Brake Situation

The Hyundai Elantra N (Avante N in Korea) in the Korean domestic market comes with the usual 1-pot floating calipers that's also standard in the US. However, in Korea, a 4-pot fixed piston brake caliper supplied by HL Mando is is also available as an option.

Since last year, Hyundai has been trying to mandate this brake option as part of the N2 cup presumably to advertise it, but ever since its introduction, multiple racers have complained that after only a few laps of use, the brakes malfunction and lose all brake functionality. The common symptom is brakes going extremely squishy, absolutely no brake functionality, with "0 bars" of brake pressure shown on telemetry.

This is an example of the failure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIkyc2bjU7Y

FYI this is a tech youtuber that does this for fun, so don't judge his driving skills too much.

This concern was brought up in the N2 series and in the offseason repeatedly, and Hyundai was adamant that the mechanics haven't bled the brakes properly with race fluid, and additionally commented worse drivers are overusing the brakes and thus overheating them much easily. Conveniently, the people who crashed due to brake failure were weaker drivers. However, the cars are maintained by a few garages that support dozens of Cup cars each, so blaming the mechanics seems like a horrible cop out.

During last year's stint while the brake situation was being investigated, Hyundai recommended reverting back to the 1 pot floating caliper stock brakes for a few of the rounds, and that caused the issue to go away. The drivers did comment that the 4 pot brakes do have more brake power and that the 1 pot brakes do suffer from more brake pad fade, but said this type of total loss in brake was not seen. Ironically, before the 4P was pushed upon everyone, nobody complained about the 1P brakes.

Due to Hyundai's response, a famous youtuber that's also very competitive in the scene had declared he is not participating in this year's round 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XKV8zmHUNc

Note that in the N1 series, a 4 piston AP Racing brake kit is used.

Disaster on Round 1

The race weekend started with eN1 and N1, the "normal" races and things seemed to go smoothly.

During the N2 race, it was pretty obvious that something was wrong long before the crash.

For example, 4:35:25 shows a highly ranked racer (김태희, 006) going off-roading because she went wide after not being able to brake enough before the corner.

Right before the crash, 4:40:22 shows her going wide likely due to brake failure

Finally, disaster strikes and the 4 cars crash right after each other.

Now it looks as though some fluid was spilled because it seems highly unlikely that all four cars decided to spin out right at the same spot at the same time. This may be hearsay, but folks have claimed marshals said there were no fluids on track at that spot.

From what is circulating all across the Korean car sphere, it appears that all four cars got brake failure in that particularly harsh part of the track, since it's a downhill heavy braking zone.

This video appears to be from an uninvolved racer after that eventful race: https://youtu.be/kgHad1Uk_zA. Look at 4:08 where the racer applies full brakes and yet the car appears to not stop at all.

Aftermath

The crash happened in the N2 Cup Masters division (basically upper league), and in the following N2 Cup Challenger division race (lower league) more than 10 cars boycotted the race and one car pitted after the parade lap in protest.

Hyundai has released a statement that they are committed to a thorough investigation with full transparency.

The tech youtuber mentioned earlier has released a video after the crash mentioning that he decided not to attend the race from the get go due to Hyundai's handling of the matter since last year.

Currently the community is waiting for the investigation and is outraged at the quality of the supposed upgraded brakes that appear to be less durable than the standard floating caliper brakes.

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"The Subaru price increases will add between $750 and $2,055 to vehicles depending on the model and trim, according to a notice posted on a dealer website. The price increases are expected to hit vehicles on dealer lots starting in June, according to the notice."

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I had a car and it had almost $7k negative equity that was paid. What was your loss on the car, like bad financing rates, high fees, negative equities and etc.

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I recently bought a new 2025 Civic Si after trade in values spiked and I was able to get close to what I paid for my 2023 F150 18 months ago. I liked the truck but didn't utilize it's capabilities very often and missed having something fun to drive. In 2019 I owned a 10th gen Si for eight months and always regretted getting rid of it but never considered another Si because of the pricing madness surrounding these cars. That has passed and they can easily be had at MSRP now. I'll just say it now, an Si is in no way worth paying a markup for.

The main reason I went with an Si besides nostalgia is the cost of ownership. I don't keep cars very long and try to pick ones where I won't lose a ton a money to depreciation. I traded my '19 in for exactly 2k less than I paid and looking at used 11th gen values, it shouldn't be too much of a hit when I eventually dump this car.

I traded a Charger Scat Pack in for my original Si then had an S550 GT, 6th gen SS, Silverado 6.2, F87 M2 DCT, C7 Z51, CT4 V Blackwing (lemon law or Id probably still have this one), F150 5.0 and now this Si. Just for an idea of where my opinions come from here.

Compared to the 10th gen, the 11th gen Civic is a huge improvement in most ways. I've only driven the Si variant of each, but at least for those two the chassis is much stiffer. Which makes the car feel much more solid going down the road. Helping that feeling is the fixed suspension. The adaptive dampers in the 10th gen were great for daily driving. In Normal they were downright soft and comfortable. Sport firmed up nicely but didn't do much as far as the car being more composed. There was still a bit of body roll. The fixed suspension on the 11th gen is rougher and firmer than the Sport setting on the 10th but there is barely any body roll and it feels a lot more sports car like suspension wise instead of a warmed over economy car with nice adaptive dampers. Not that the Si is a sports car, just the suspension tuning is amazing considering what kind of car it is. I can take a cloverleaf on ramp at 55 to 60 mph and it just hugs the pavement and grips while feeling like it has more to give. It could be considered borderline too rough depending on road surface for a fun commuter but I like it. Definitely the standout performance aspect of the 11th gen Si along with the steering feel. I'm not sure I'd rate the steering as well as on the GM Alpha cars but it's close.

The other big thing you get with the Si is a real LSD up front. When you're taking one of those cloverleaf ramps you can continue to press the throttle and feel the LSD pull the car through the turn. I'm very interested to see how this is on track later this year closer to the car's limits. I haven't felt the car understeer but admittedly haven't pushed it beyond 7-8/10ths yet. Handling feel and capability feels like a nice step up from last gen. Torque steer is present if you go WOT in 1st.

The most controversial aspect of the Si is the engine. I'll be the first to admit I wish this car had a detuned version of the 2.0L from the Type R. VW does it with the GTI and R. I couldn't fault anyone for passing on this car because of the 1.5L engine. It's okay considering it's a tarted up eco motor. Gets stellar fuel economy. It can easily touch 40 mpg on the highway and I've been getting 32-33 mpg average while driving it like a rental car. It's tuned better than the 10th gen engine as well. The turbo spools quicker and lower in the rev range. You still need to be over 2,500 rpms for any power though. It pulls harder up top too. The 10th gen really died off at 5,500 rpm. The 11th, pulls solidly all the way to redline. In 3rd and 4th it feels like there's a small boost in pull starting from 5,500 to 6,500. It's barely noticeable but still a big improvement over the last car. Even with the improved tuning the Si is easily the slowest in class. It doesn't feel like an absolute dog like my Forester but you also are never impressed by the power at full throttle. It simply feels not slow. A large step down from the VW and Hyundai 2.0Ls. As well as much less power than the 2.4L in the WRX.

Another standout aspect of the Si is the shifter. It is one of the best I've ever felt. An improvement over the 10th gen's already great shifter. I'd rank it up there with the ND2 Miata and TR-6060s I've owned as far as shift feel but the clutch holds it back. It's extremely light, literally no effort has to be exerted to depress the clutch, but there's also very little feel through the pedal. Enough so you know where the bite point is but it's a far cry from an ND2 or Camaro SSs clutch. It makes stop and go traffic a breeze, not fatiguing at all besides going through the motions. The gearing is also insanely short in the 11th gen Si. 4k rpms comes up before 20 mph in 1st and just over 30 mph in 2nd. That with the low power can be annoying especially when the engine is cold. Once rolling though the gearing is great for winding it out on public roads. 2nd red lines at 54 mph, 3rd at 73. Not sure where 4th and 5th end but 110 mph is over 5k rpms in 5th.

Another improved from the 10th gen, but not improved enough aspect is rev hang. It's just ever so slightly noticeable under 4k rpms but not enough to be annoying. Full throttle to red line and it's still very present. It seems to be worse in the lower gears. I haven't measured the time but when you clutch in from 1st it feels like at least 2 or more seconds before the revs drop enough to let the clutch out into 2nd. I tuned this out on my 10th gen and am considering doing it here as well. The car felt and was significantly quicker post tune going from a 92 mph to 99 mph 1/4th mile trap speed.

Overall I'm really enjoying this car considering it cost 32k otd. While it is a big downgrade from the other performance cars I've owned I can't say I'm having any less fun while commuting to work with traffic, stop lights etc. If anything I'm enjoying it more while getting double the mpg, shifting much more and not being frustrated trying to constantly use 450+ hp. Now, taking it down an empty back road on a weekend drive it's a far cry from a 6.2L Corvette but for a daily driver and all that entails it's a solid choice.

Plans for the Si are to track the hell out of it at HPDEs. I have two scheduled this year for Summit Point and VIR and plan to do more in 2026. I also plan on picking up a Miata at some point in the near future because while I like the Si for a daily, it doesn't scratch the rwd two seater with an NA engine itch at all.

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