I know Kbin will grow in time but I miss how huge Reddit was.

For anyone who's a podcast junkie like me, The Indicator mentioned the blackout yesterday: https://www.npr.org/2023/06/16/1182896830/r-boxes-r-reddit-r-airegs

No mention of the Reddit alternatives, it was very brief and mostly summed up with "we'll wait and see what happens."

Or the fediverse in general.

I wanted to ask everyone their personal least favorite communities on reddit.

Whic subreddits do you absolutely not (personally of course) want to see recreated as magazines here on kbin, or as fediverse communities in general?

My pet peeve is CMV. I always felt while the idea seemed doable on the surface, the implementation within that particular subreddit with the delta system, the requirement for the top level comments to oppose the OP even if the "view" is an established expert consensus on something like climate change made it impossible to have meaningful conversations.

I haven't checked if we have a CMV magazine here, but as soon as I see one, I know I'm blocking it.

What is your "instant block" community?

So this morning I overwrote 11 years of comments on Reddit with this message:

In preparation for the discontinuation of Ah pall O (read it fast) I have decided to edit my posts/comments and then delete my account. Looking forward to seeing you on whatever comes next 🍻! – mass edited with https://redact.dev/

And I just had a thought. LLM / Generative AI devs and trainers are considering how to consume the massive amount of useful conversation and perspectives on Reddit, and now they will have to contend with random comments in the middle of conversations being completely unrelated to the conversation. Somebody is probably writing code to isolate and ignore these types of comments already 🤣

Happy fediversationing, everyone!

#RedditMigration

It doesn't matter to current leadership of reddit how many people it pisses off. For every user of third-party apps, there are now 10 bots and sockpuppet accounts it gets to count as active users.

And that is exactly how you blow the roof off your IPO. Alphabet and Meta have been lying about their user engagement numbers for decades at this point. "Impressions" are all self-reported and they have zero incentive to be honest. Reddit's VC money is begging Spez to get into this game before the IPO. For all they lies they are saying out loud, this is the quiet one.

Business as usual, keep them well moderated and on topic... buuuuut, add a rule that all content shared must contain a link to your fediverse community

The Sunday morning before the subs going dark:
88,881 Lemmy/kbin accounts

The following Saturday morning/as I write this:
185,142 Lemmy/kbin accounts

So it's well known now that the developer of Apollo estimated the new API pricing would cost $20 million a year. For a source, see the title of https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/31/23743993/reddit-apollo-client-api-cost

But from https://apnews.com/article/reddit-blackout-steve-huffman-ceo-api-0a4f7b344ecfbf50c924b030c344c55e the price from supporting third party apps is $!0 million a year. And presumably this is all third party apps combined!

Huffman says the “pure infrastructure costs” of supporting these apps costs Reddit about $10 million each year.

Something's very not balanced here. That one app would have paid for Reddit's third party infra costs twice over.

I can not remember which ones now (can anyone help me out here actually?), but I think a few apps said they'd try to make it work with the new pricing.

Which means Reddit likely stands to make a huge pot of money once the new API changes take effect, in the short term.

Even if Reddit loses the best subs, the best communities, the best users, and the moderation goes to where the sun don't shine, I could see that new revenue boosting investors confidence enough to lead to a successful (if slightly smaller) IPO.

If Reddit goes downhill and loses lots of value afterwards, well, spez has already made his quick buck, so I doubt he wouldn't feel very sentimental about it.

Folks, please explain to me why I'm wrong. Please.

Announcement on /r/gifs and on /r/pics.

The most Reddit way to protest 🤣

Hello!
How to subscribe to a magazine ???
I found it in the sidebar on lemmy but on kbin is not obvious at all.
Thanks in advance

#RedditMigration

SEE SECOND EDIT DOWN BELOW

Lets not beat around the bush here, lots of people like to look at boobs and dicks.

Lemmynsfw was looking like a good place to go, but reading the "Loli" announcement thread where they equate drawn child porn to petite women, its clear the owner is not the right person to be hosting a NSFW instance for the majority of people.

Is there anywhere else that people can recommend?

There is undoubtably a need for such an instance. Can we discuss this like adults?

edit: UPDATE

Take this update as you will

I'm taking it as a backtrack, but it's still not an instance I want to associate with.

Lots of people keen to offer their opinion of drawn picture of naked kids, haven't seen any alternatives though

Edit 2: At this point I think their updated rules are good. It took a bit to get there, but in the end they appear to be taking a hard stance. Hopefully this is enforced.

I dont think it was a case of "whoops bad English" like they are suggesting, I think it was a total 180 backflip. This doesnt really instill confidence in the admins IMO, but im happy that they have made the right decision in regards to allowed content. Hopefully this is was just some early wobblies and the community can move on.

Because on reddit clicking on the thread title takes you to the linked article and not the thread itself.

How many of you are like me, click on "nn comments" by habit, end up in the comments area and have to scroll back up to see whatever the OP posted?

(Not saying any of this is kbin's fault, it is just taking a bit of getting used to)

"Reddit represents one of the largest data sets of just human beings talking about interesting things," Huffman said. "We are not in the business of giving that away for free." You and me, we're just data sets. Years of interaction with fellow human beings, building community, sharing insight and creativity…it’s all just data. Data to be mined and monetized. Huffman's not mad Reddit was scraped for a chatbot. He's mad he wasn't paid for the privilege. It's his data, you see. His. Not yours.

Is there a kbin API to allow posts? I had a look quickly at the docs and could only see get requests.

I ask this, as reddit can be ‘crawled’ simply by adding .json to the end of a user or sub (https://www.reddit.com/r/voidlinux.json for example). It should be possible to copy vast swaths of reddit over to kbin to build some history here, as well as potentially sync the data from reddit over to keep us from FOMO.

#RedditMigration

I read somewhere in the threadiverse people asking for some equivalent of sport streaming subreddit.

That's one case where i'm afraid fediverse won't work, the sharing of not so legal stuff.

If a song, or a movie, or a stream, is posted on youtube or instagram, we don't care, google will most likely not remove it, and no judge will close youtube for that 🙂

Do that on one of our fediverse, small, no profit, no ads, instances, whether is lemmy, kbin, owncast, peertube.
They will sue our ass

The most successful fediverse use cases so far are proven to be text discussions and our very own pictures.

@RedditMigration
@oblomov @tchambers

I keep looking back at what's happening with Reddit, not because I want to go back, but just morbid curiosity on if they will ever get their head out of their ass. The more I see, the more I feel the move to kbin was the right move. Removing mods, falsifying information, lying, deception, and just not listening to the community. Not only that, just looking at the content post blackout and it isn't the same anymore.

#RedditMigration

i have two subreddits, one of them has videos for content and the other one is more based around discussion about the links that get posted, so i realise i might have to do two different processes, and i'm not getting paid sooo ..

i have two priorities. one is to transfer as much content as possible. the other is to take as little effort as possible to do so. i'm not sure which one is higher, but considering that it's saturday night right now the second one is still really important because i'v got a bottle of rum and the sound system is turned on and imma groovin' and don't wanna stop

After weeks of burning through users’ goodwill, Reddit is facing a moderator strike and an exodus of its most important users. It’s the latest example of a social media site making a critical mistake: users aren’t there for the services, they’re there for the community.

A call-to-action for Reddit users to reclaim their digital autonomy

As we've seen in the past week, a large amount of users don't care why subreddits are blacked out or why, they just want their timeline back to normal.

It's understandable, most users just want something to "work" when they want to use it and don't give any thought to what that means. We've already seen mods be replaced, deleted histories come back to life, whatever it takes for Reddit to make it seem "normal" so they don't lose users. Heck, even some of those who have left Reddit may be tempted to go back and read / comment on things they see there, because Reddit obviously isn't going to die overnight. So how do we continue the fight in the current environment Reddit has put us in while still getting a message across the users?

My thought is the following, and I'm putting it here because I think recent migrants are/were more than semi-casual reddittors, and it's clear we've got some development talent out there. I'm a developer as well but I'm looking for:

1. Thoughts on the approach I'm suggesting
2. Thoughts on implementation / usage
3. Overall feelings regarding this in general

The idea

Make browser plugin(s) and / or a website that [knowingly to the user] intercept comment post requests for reddit and stores the post content elsewhere. In its place, all that is submitted to reddit is a link to a website (where people can click to view users intended comment text) along with a blurb about "reddit owning your comment data".

The browser plugin can also find these comments within posts and automatically query and get the raw text and replace it within a reddit page to make viewing these posts easier for everyone.

The idea being that the more users install the extension to easily read these posts, the more users obfuscate their posts so that other users also need the extension to more easily read comments on reddit.

Not only does this protect user data from being owned by Reddit, it makes it so Google searches will not find content on reddit.

Example post before and after:

(Unencrypted, or viewed with the browser extension installed)

(The posted content stored in reddit)

There's my idea. A few thoughts / notes:

• Is this possible? I haven't checked out manifest V3 or made a browser extension in a long time, but with what RES already does I assume this would be doable.
• Is it worth it? Will enough people want to read comments stored in this manner to "join the fight"? Who knows
• Should it store the comment data elsewhere, or just store encrypted text in the reddit comment itself?

Anyway. I know we've got a lot of ex-redditors here, a lot of very talented developers, and a fight still going on that deserves a next step from the users.

Open to any and all thoughts from. This is just a musing on a potential next step - I haven't decided if I'm going to start developing anything yet.

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