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Why do they turn Federation into a dystopia? (infosec.pub)
submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by Chemo@feddit.org to c/startrek@startrek.website
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I just don't get it. What is the freaking problem of those directors, trying to rewrite federation into some kind of dystopian tech fascism?

I was annoyed by the first Star Trek movie by JJ Abrams, with those police cops. I was alienated by those anti-android resentments in Picard. I stopped watching Discovery after the first episode, because the main protagonist was sent to some kind of labor prison for disobedience, where prisoners regularly die. I didn't think it could get any worse but just watching the first 10 minutes of Starfleet Academy makes me want to bury the whole franchise [edit: and stopped watching]. Some drumhead court-martial, lifelong prison sentence, violently separating a mother from her child and some goons beating up a prisoner. How in the hell is this the same federation of TNG, Voyager and DS9?

Star Trek is supposed to be the ONE fiction with a positive, utopian view on mankind and the future. I totally get the attraction of dystopian settings but for that I can read some Warhammer 40k novels. This really makes me furious.

Fortunately there is still Strange New Worlds.

Please spoiler me, when this bullshit in Starfleet Academy gets turned around in some twist, because otherwise I will just ignore the show.

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[โ€“] Kirk@startrek.website 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'd also like to highlight that the Federation is never described in-universe as a Utopia (the only example that comes to mind is Pelia sarcastically describing Earth specifically as a "no money, socialist utopia").

Since the TOS days the messaging has always kinda been that "Utopia" is about the journey more than the destination.

[โ€“] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, someone summed it up very well elsewhere in the thread: "utopia" describes an ideal to strive toward, but is inherently unachievable, if only because you will never find two people who have the same utopic vision.

Unless "utopia" includes some sort of system for forcing everyone to think alike... ๐Ÿค”