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Take note, voters! Vote Blue! None of this would be happening under Democratic leadership.

Oh wait...

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https://xkcd.com/661/

I've seen many people take absolutists stances and throw accusations or insults at others who don't. While I applaud that they recognized serious problems, I want everyone to understand why I might take actions that seem to ignore or even worsen those problems: I only have so much power and so many options, none of which are ideal, so I do the best I can with what I have. I might prioritize stopping one bad thing over stopping another; that's not me excusing the other bad thing, that's me playing the cards I have to get the least bad outcome.

Personally, I base my moral decisions on expected outcomes. I would pull the lever in the trolley problem. I understand some people think me a monster for that, and I certainly wouldn't feel good pulling it, but I see it as me net saving people. I disagree with people that wouldn't pull it, but I see where they're coming from and I'm not mad at them (disappointed, maybe). Of course, as well as pulling the lever, there may be options to try helping the one person on the tracks, and we should definitely attempt such a rescue.

This whole topic can be applied to the do-i-vote-for-biden thing that this community seems divided over, but it's much more broadly applicable too.

Anyway, this is just me saying that I don't think the absolutist all-or-nothing approach some people take is a good idea, and I also don't like when some of them call me a bad person for not doing the same.

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Please read the sidebar before commenting

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The guide in question.

(The reply in the screenshot is satire btw)

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There are MANY center-right communities in the fediverse where you are allowed (even encouraged) to defend things like genocide, imperialism, colonialism, capitalism, US-style "democracy," and those who support them. This is not one of them.

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...and I still see liberals doing mental gymnastics for why Biden is gud ackshually

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There's been a STRONG attempt by the media to portray these demonstrations as anti-Semitic. Even the White House has put out a statement against the participants.

The lengths that this nation and its institutions will go to in order to defend their support of Israel is really reflective of what type of nation we are.

Here's some more.

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Youtube recommendation (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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If you followed the mainstream news for the Iran/Israel escalation, then you might have been terrified about ww3, fearmongering is something they do well.

I'm here to suggest a quite crazy channel for leftist to follow. military industrial economics, channel Perun.

Not because MIC good, but because it's a channel that grants a very well versed way to understanding modern conflicts. No, it's not perfect, but it's way better than cnn or some shit

edit!: it's also one of the reasons I'm less afraid of nuclear escalation in the world!

also lol, link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC3ehuUksTyQ7bbjGntmx3Q

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What if that were your child, your parent, your friend or loved one?

What would you do? Make excuses? Stay silent? Say "at least it's not some hypothetical worse situation"?

No, you'd do everything you could to stop it

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Still thinking about this

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Link to article with more information.

These are pro-Palestine demonstrators that have been demonstrating peacefully.

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Full post for context.

I wish I had a cookie for every time a Democrat told me the concentration camps are good ackshually

Fuck your border and your president

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