Progressive_Islam

Islam's understanding of morality is rooted in three foundational blocks : Qur'an, Hadith, and Fiqh. To claim that Islam supports such a heinous act like grape would be a gross misunderstanding of the basics of how Islamic law operates. Here are some common claims levied against Islam, followed by a Fiqh rebuttal.

1. Claim #1 : Islam supports Concubinal grape.

Debunking :

Abu Abdullah al-Halimi, in Minhaj fi Shu'ab al-Iman vol 3, pg 267 :

"If a female slave is purchased and she dislikes to be touched, or slept with, then he may not touch her, lie with her, or have intercourse with her unless she agrees."

2. Claim #2 : Islam supports Marital grape.

Debunking :

Imam ash-Shafi'i - Kitab al-Umm, Vol 5, pg 203-205.

"As for intercourse, it is a domain of mutual pleasure, and no one is to be forced into it."

3. Claim #3 : Islam supports statutory grape.

Sub claim 3a) A girl betrothed into marriage by her father to a man, has no way to exit the marriage if she does not want it.

Debunking :

Ibn Abidin : Radd al-Muhtar Vol 6, Chapter on Kitab al-nikah,

"... And if the guardian acts unjustly, ie forces one (into marriage) contrary to marriageability or against her will, then after attaining regulatory maturity, she may approach the judge, who can annul the marriage if deemed unfit..."

Sub claim 3b) A girl without mental maturity can enter into a marriage.

Debunking :

Ibn Ashur, : Tahrir wa Tanwir on Tafsir 4:6

" It is not sufficient for the validity of marriage contract that a girl has only reached puberty. Rather her mental maturity (Rushd) is also required. Therefore it is not permissible for her to marry before she attains mental soundness so that she is capable of bearing the responsibilities of marriage. "

Sub claim 3c) the Qur'an in 65:4 permits marrying pre pubescent girls.

Debunking : Periods are part of Gonadal puberty. However, girls undergo Adrenal puberty first, marked with signs such as underarm hair.

Thus, there is no contradiction. Islam still requires girls to start puberty before they can enter into a marriage contract.

Al- Mughni by Ibn Qudamah :

"reaching puberty is a condition for the validity of the marriage contract, thus, the marriage of a minor who has not reached puberty is not valid".

By: u/AntiqueBrick7490

I often find myself wondering that, because to me, Mohammed just seems like what Jesus would've been if he lived in a completely different environment.

Jesus lived under the scrutiny of the Roman Empire, which was at that time, the strongest and mightiest power on Earth. He came as a teacher to the Jews, and made it very, very clear that his teachings were for the Jews only. He didn't engage in war or have any slaves because frankly, there was no reason to. That's not why he was sent.

On the other hand, Mohammed lived in the lawless, tribalistic deserts of Arabia. He first practiced pacifism in the same way Jesus did for 14 years, until it became necessary to confront aggression with the sword.

His outcome was different than Jesus', in the sense that he was more like Nobunaga: a warrior who united the feuding tribes of a lawless nation under one banner, and so rose from it one of the greatest civilizations on Earth (leading to the Islamic Golden Age).

Aside from that, when you look into the actual raw version of Christianity without the rose-colored lens, Jesus isn't as benevolent as people make him out to be. In fact, some may say he's way worse than Mohammed.

It really comes down to one main source: the Old Testament & Jesus' approval of it. I'm sure many of you are aware of the horrors of Exodus, Leviticus, Deuteronomy, etc. and if you're not, feel free to read some of the passages online like Exodus 21 and Numbers 31.

But if you believe Jesus is God, that means you believe he was the God of the OT, which means he did things like approving the mass genocide of neighboring nations to Israel, allowing non-Hebrew slaves to be enslaved and beaten for life, etc. And of course, the Bible also states that God is the same today, yesterday and forever (13:8)

If you believe Jesus was the son of God or one in a trinity, that still doesn't make a difference since Jesus said "I and my father are one" (John 10:30) an spoke highly of the OT Law, even going as far as to mandate his followers to uphold it (Matthew 5:17-19, also the same sermon where he said love thy neighbor) and said scripture (referring to the OT and its laws) cannot be broken (John 10:35).

There are many more things Jesus said in the NT that heavily contradict his "loving and graceful" nature that mainstream media has made him out to be, Hebrews 10:26-29 is an example of Jesus condemning people to hell eternally just for sinning once after hearing the scripture, which isn't even found in the most extreme versions of Islam.

At the very least, Mohammed, even if we take his most brutalistic form as portrayed by media, is just another war general. Jesus on the other hand literally approves for people to be tortured eternally.

I really wonder why that's the case. Frankly, I see Islam and Christianity as the same religion. Both have good in them: promotion of charity, mercy, kindness, and tolerance. And bad: permissibility of slavery and war.

This question could also go on to another branch: why is Christianity sugarcoated to oblivion but not Islam? Usually, people see Christianity in the best possible light, but Islam in the worst.

Ulemas view the Quran as a book of not just synonyms, but synonyms of sex:

• When there is Nikah, they put sex (yes)
• When there is shahwah, they put sex
• When there is ta'tuna/bring, they put sex
• When there is bashirū, they put sex
• when there is taqrabū, they put sex (the only time they accept metaphors)
• When there is harth, they put sex
• When there is furūj, the put sex
• When there is alamin, they put sex (Q26:165)
• When they don't know what to do they put sex (Q36:55, read the tafsir on it)

They made every word in the Quran as a synonyms for sex! $%@!

'Generosity is a tree in Paradise whose branches stretch down to this world. Whoever is generous has taken hold of one of these branches and this branch will lead him to Paradise.'

Zina is obviously haraam as is anything that leads to Zina.

Free mixing does not lead to Zina, if anything it prevents Zina by ensuring people can find suitable spouses. Maybe it prevented Zina in the past, but not today!

Hyper segregation causes people to go underground for Zina.

Also consider the social ineptitude that develops due to gender segregation.

I’ll go even a step further and say going on coffee dates, dinner dates - all in public spheres - should be normalised

As The Title Says.

By: u/kaitolumiere

Hey everyone.

I finally finished my first volume of my manga, and it's available for purchase online!

I have been seeing more and more muslim manga artists pop up online I think it's great seeing the momentum.

Insha'allah we will be able to tell our own stories and motivate people to see the beauty of our faith!

If you like dark fantasy tales be sure to grab a copy!

May Allah bless u all 🤲🏻

If you are interested in a copy the purchase link is here:

Sacrifice Manga - mixam.com

(looks like outside the US shipping is high so I will be working to find a site that can ship for a lot less!)

The village of Arnum, part of Hemmingen, south of Hanover, Germany, witnessed a horrific crime on Friday morning, claiming the life of the young Algerian woman, Rahma Ayad (26 years old), after being subjected to fatal stab wounds inside her apartment.

Neighbors reported hearing screams for help, before the victim collapsed in front of a neighbor's apartment, covered in blood. The police arrested a 31-year-old German man living in the same building, after he was found covered in blood at the crime scene.

So far, no formal charges have been brought against him, but investigations are ongoing and include the possibility of a racist motive, especially after testimonies circulated indicating that the victim had been subjected to previous harassment by the same neighbor mainly about the fact that she's wearing the Hijab.

Rahma had moved from Oran to Germany to continue her nursing training, before her life ended tragically...

Source

There has been an increasing trend among many young Muslims who are upto the task of erecting a Caliphate, and if not Caliphate, then pushing for an Islamic brotherhood to recognize the status of Muslim Ummah.

But realistically it is not possible at all. I am not a nationalist at all, and dislike it, but its opposite ideology, globalism or internationalism is not possible either. Its a huge mistake to believe that erecting a Muslim Ummah magically solves the nationalistic conflicts of the Islamic world.

Say for instance, during the first world war, the British empire lured the Arab Muslims to fight against Ottomans in exchange for Arab nationalism/independence. However, they did not honor it fully as they forcefully created a Jewish land among the Arab nations (very cunning of the British empire to get rid of its own antisemitism).

On the other hand, after the Great War, Muslims in India were revolting against British empire in support of Ottoman Caliphate. However, the Caliphate was abolished not by the British, but by the Turks themselves. The Indian Muslims made an absolute disgrace of themselves. After failing with this movement, Maulana Azad had to resort to his own nationalism. Whereas, a guy like Jinnah could care less about what happens in a different part of Muslim world, and came out to be correct.

So, there is no point in supporting the Muslim Ummah at all, since you do not know which part of the Muslim world reacts to which events. However, that does not mean one cannot condemn the atrocities, such as Israeli atrocities. But, a Muslim ummah does not solve this issue.

“Indeed the cognition & knowing of Allah provides comfort in all terrors & frights. And it is the companion in all solitudes & loneliness & the light in all darkness & energy in all weaknesses & feeblenesses & the cure of all diseases & aliments".

By: u/Kooky-Union4830

A lot of the convoluted and often contradictory dogma has many Muslims questioning their faith.

Whatever your views, please keep things respectful.

One that doesn’t take Hadith written 200 years after the Prophet’s death too seriously, focuses on the basic tenets of the faith, emphasises one’s personal relationship with God and respects individual liberty?

By u/Major-Conference8574

Every fake religion says: “Just believe.”

But the Qur’an literally challenges: “Do they not reflect? Are their hearts locked?” (47:24)

If this was a lie… why would it dare you to THINK?

By: u/Terrible-Vanilla3843

the term she took off her hijab

all hijabis take it off at some point in the. day. well all took it off. but we didn’t leave in in our drawers or closets .no we wore it again the next day.
"she took it off" is weaponized to say "she rejected ur belief and religion and has embraced western life style. the colonizers and. Imperialist that keep talking about how shit ur religion is, win again. she chose them over you!!! " this is not reflecting btw. This is how many muslims understand it.
we need another term to describe it that doesn’t do praise to the west and attack to islam while making the girl sound like a kaffir.

how about:

she has her hijab in her drawer or on her desk.

edit: if you don’t understand what i am talking about then this is not addressed to you. if you know you know. thats it.

By: u/CapitalCauliflower87

Not trying to start an argument, genuinely curious

By: u/Archiver_test4

• whoever ˹truly˺ believes in Allah (see 2:255)
• and the Last Day (see chapter 107)
• and does good, (see 2:195)

these 3 are the pillars of islam, what every prophet and messenger believed in, from adam to muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him)

this is what is directed to all followers of the "millat-e-ibrahim", the followers of abraham.

this includes, muslims, jews, christians and sabians.

there is NO verse in the book of god that lists 5 pillars of islam as follows

• shahada that there is only one God and that Muhammad is his prophet,
• praying,
• fasting,
• charity
• Hajj

its like the garbage books have corrupted minds of people for generations when 5:69 is right infront of everyone.

why not 5 pillars as traditionally decided by scholars from various spread out verses?

well there is an argument.

do pillars come at the start of something or at the end? did adam practice the 3 pillars i mentioned or the 5 pillars in traditional sense?

wasn't prayer supposedly mandated on day of me'raj? what about other prophets, did they give zakat and did hajj and did fasting? or prayed 5 times?

By: u/New-Satisfaction3993

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By: u/LogicalAwareness9361

Or can it just be any sane adult?