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#lemmy /#kbin has a problem that #mastodon hasn't even attempted to solve; groups and what happens when they get popular. (mas.to)

submitted 2 years ago by schizanon@mas.to to c/technology@beehaw.org

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#lemmy/#kbin has a problem that #mastodon hasn't even attempted to solve; groups and what happens when they get popular.

#Communities, #groups, #magazines, whatever they are called are implemented as #Actors in #ActivityPub. They are basically just *very* popular users who boost a *lot*.

You can't just distribute them across instances the way normal actors do. Whichever server hosts @technology@lemmy.ml or @technology@beehaw.org is going to get HOSED on the regular.

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[–] sunaurus@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (13 children)

The network can actually scale quite well thanks to the fact that other instances will act as mirrors of communities!

[–] sukan@feddit.jp 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

But what happens when the instance hosting the community goes down? Are all external instances still able to participate in that community? I get that they are mirrored but will everyone still be connected?

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (7 children)

If it's just a temporary outage, whatever the mirror has received prior to the outage will be shown to users on that other instance but only local interactions for that instance will update it, when it comes back up, things like votes and comments will be synchronized again across all of the instances.

For permanent outages, the community will just need to be started again on a new instance.

[–] sukan@feddit.jp 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reading this and trying to visualize the big picture, I think this is where kbin's magazine is going to win out in the end

[–] Whooping_Seal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Out of curiosity, how is kbin's magazine system designed to avoid this problem?

[–] sukan@feddit.jp 5 points 2 years ago

Ok, from what I understand now, a magazine can follow tags or keywords, which will populate the magazine. So no matter where in the fediverse something is posted, it will show up in the magazine.

But then if the instance hosting the magazine goes down YEAH OK I GET IT NOW

[–] sukan@feddit.jp 3 points 2 years ago

From what I understand... wait I understand nothing

[–] nii236@lemmy.jtmn.dev 3 points 2 years ago

It’s not

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