The results of female national elite athletes even indicate that the strength level attainable by extremely high training will rarely surpass the 50th percentile of untrained or not specifically trained men.

[–] drtaco@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This is what happens when you google something to support your made-up fact, rather than base your argument on the research.

Your claim was that this applies to most, but not all trans women. Your link provides literally zero support of that.

This bad faith, scientifically illiterate shit is why people are generally inclined to dismiss you as spewing ignorant bar talk and move on without trying to change your mind. Your stance wasn't set based on current, relevant research and therefore isn't likely to be changed by it.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Your claim was that this applies to most, but not all trans women.

I made three claims and you called it all made-up facts.

Men have a significant advantage over women when it comes to strenght
and speed
and in most (but not all) cases this applies to trans women as well.

[–] drtaco@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you want to get pedantic, you have to figure out how to be accurate. Breaking a sentence into bullet points doesn't make it separate claims. The word "and" means that for the sentence to be true, all of the components must be. You made one claim, with multiple aspects and evidence that does not support 2/3 of them at all.

I think the other user had it right, so I'm going to steal this one: stay ignorant friendo

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk -1 points 2 months ago

The best data is from military recruits, and there are a couple of recent studies, one published in 2020 and one in 2023. They looked at cis men, cis women, trans man and trans women. How many steps you can do in a minute, how many push ups you can do in a minute, and how fast you can run 1.5 miles. And what they found in that study was that trans women remained faster for up to two years after the initiation of gender affirming hormone therapy. At four years, trans women continued to do more sit ups and push ups.

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