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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 74 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

Because they are driving under near ideal conditions, in areas that are completely mapped out, and guided away from roadworks and avoiding "confusing" crosses, and other traffic situations like unmarked roads, that humans deal with routinely without problem.
And in a situation they can't handle, they just stop and call and wait for a human driver to get them going again, disregarding if they are blocking traffic.

I'm not blaming Waymo for doing it as safe as they can, that's great IMO.
But don̈́t make it sound like they drive better than humans yet. There is still some ways to go.

What's really obnoxious is that Elon Musk claimed this would be 100% ready by 2017. Full self driving, across America, day and night, safer than a human. I have zero expectation that Tesla RoboTaxi will arrive this summer as promised.

[–] scratchee@feddit.uk 23 points 2 months ago (6 children)

You’re not wrong, but arguably that doesn’t invalidate the point, they do drive better than humans because they’re so much better at judging their own limitations.

If human drivers refused to enter dangerous intersections, stopped every time things started yup look dangerous, and handed off to a specialist to handle problems, driving might not produce the mountain of corpses it does today.

That said, you’re of course correct that they still have a long way to go in technical driving ability and handling of adverse conditions, but it’s interesting to consider that simple policy effectively enforced is enough to cancel out all the advantages that human drivers currently still have.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

You are completely ignoring the under ideal circumstances part.
~~They can't drive at night AFAIK~~, they can't drive outside the area that is meticulously mapped out.
And even then, they often require human intervention.

If you asked a professional driver to do the exact same thing, I'm pretty sure that driver would have way better accident record than average humans too.

Seems to me you are missing the point I tried to make. And is drawing a false conclusion based on comparing apples to oranges.

[–] scratchee@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago

I specifically didn’t ignore that. My entire point was that a driver that refuses to drive under anything except “ideal circumstances” is still a safer driver.

I am aware that if we banned driving at night to get the same benefit for everyone, it wouldn’t go very well, but that doesn’t really change the safety, only the practicality.

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