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"No nation is older than 250" (infosec.pub)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by Irelephant@lemm.ee to c/facepalm@lemmy.world

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A threads post saying "There has never been another nation ever that has existed much beyond 250 years. Not a single one. America's 250th year is 2025. The next 4 years are gonna be pretty interesting considering everything that's already been said." It has a reply saying "My local pub is older than your country".

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[–] pcalau12i@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (10 children)

While the US is pretty old as a state, most societies have a direct continuation from one state to the next. It's not like when France overthrew its monarchy they stopped being France or seeing themselves as French. So they may see their continuous history as much older than the current state, with the Kingdom of France going back to 987.

The US doesn't have a continuous history prior to 1776 because they mostly come from Britain but they denounce their British heritage and they settled in NA but also denounce the heritage of the local peoples there. So the average American sees their entire history as starting at 1776, maybe a little bit further back to include the initial colonies and that's about it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It’s not like when France overthrew its monarchy they stopped being France or seeing themselves as French.

They didn't even stop being a monarch (for very long). I think they're on something like their Fifth Republic at this point, because they keep going back and doing Bourbon Restorations, cause some of them cannot stop being monarchists no matter how hard they try.

Monarchists are like the fucking hydra. Chop off a thousand heads and you somehow get two thousand more monarchists in their place. It's bananas.

[–] IggyTheSmidge@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Royalty was like dandelions. No matter how many heads you chopped off, the roots were still there underground, waiting to spring up again.

It seemed to be a chronic disease. It was as if even the most intelligent person had this little blank spot in their heads where someone had written: "Kings. What a good idea." Whoever had created humanity had left in a major design flaw. It was its tendency to bend at the knees.

― Terry Pratchett, Feet of Clay

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