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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (16 children)

Body cams were never a solution to anything. I remember multiple police murders recorded on body cams were the officer was acquitted by the jury. Police murder is basically legal in US*. Recording it doesn't change anything. As for police brutality in general they simply learned to shout "stop resisting" when beating people up. Without basic accountability the recording are useless.

*It's enough if police officer thinks he is in danger to make killing legal. Pretty much if he's scared he can shoot. Body cams can't prove he wasn't scared.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Body cams aren't the solution, but they do help a lot. When cops have zero oversight, they commit way more atrocities, on average.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 9 points 1 month ago (12 children)

You should read this: https://prismreports.org/2024/07/16/complex-troubling-history-police-body-cameras/

"Long before body cameras were introduced to the public and found themselves in mainstream conversations about police reform, they were first peddled to police departments by tech companies and major corporations.

With body cameras, law enforcement agencies could expand their surveillance capacity, mitigate police brutality lawsuits, create “highly controllable evidence” against the largely poor, largely Black citizens of whom police often seek to capture footage, and quell social unrest by creating “comprehensive digital archives” of attendees at protests for social change"

"It was the 2014 police killing of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, that would forever change the public conversation around police accountability and allow body cameras to take center stage. Almost immediately, body cameras were no longer being pitched behind closed doors to police departments, but were rather presented to the public as an invaluable tool for police “reform” and increased “transparency.”"

[–] FrostyCaribou@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm curious about the "highly controllable evidence" part. Perhaps this conversation isn't attainable without getting into vast generalizations, however, in my experience officers generally activate their cameras when they respond to a crime and don't turn them off until they are no longer investigating the crime. This is generally when the defendant has already been interviewed and is custody in a police vehicle. If there are subsequent interviews, they turn back on their cameras.

I know my experience is not universal, but body cameras seem to be a great way to maintain transparency in investigations since defendants and prosecutors will both have video/audio of the investigation.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In another comment I posted a link to another study that shows police does not provide footage from most of police shootings. Yes, most of the time the camera is recording but most of the time only police can see the footage. That's what they mean by "highly controllable evidence”. When it exonerates the officer they give to the TV stations in a matter of hours. When it doesn't they hide it and you have to fight them in courts for years to see it.

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