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[–] gaja@lemm.ee 158 points 2 weeks ago (51 children)

Got a lot to say but I'll keep it brief-ish. Corporations love unhealthy people. They will artificially celebrate this and reinforce unhealthy lifestyles. This extends beyond weight.

Once entrapped, escape is hard. Some are passive and depressed. Some are dismissive and defensive. No matter which cycle you are in, it's unhealthy.

I think smoking is bad like I think being overweight is bad. If a doctor says alcohol is killing you, it probably is. I don't think hatred is deserved, but don't expect any validation for those choices.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (34 children)

The meme isn't about that, I've read stories of some doctors refusing to perform surguries to overweight people, but other doctors doing the surgery anyway.

The same way a lot of women get told stuff is just from their period by doctors.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 44 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The reason for that is that surgeons are rated based on their success percentages meaning they'll recommend against risky surgeries.

The upside of this is that surgeons aren't operating willy-nilly on people and will make a proper risk assessment. The downside is that overweight people have an inherently higher risk of complications from surgery, so some surgeons will pass.

It's not because they think these people don't need it, it's because they think it's too risky. They're usually not wrong about that, you just need to find a surgeon willing to take the risk or, if possible, reduce the risk by losing weight.

[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There's also no point to surgeries if the people aren't committed and are just going to eat even more and put the weight back on. It's like consolidating debt to make one payment easier but keeping all the credit cards and building up the debt again. It just makes you worse off

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That depends on the surgery. Gastric bypass notoriously has weight requirements, but a gallbladder removal can still kill you if you're too fat, and there definitely is a point to doing that even if the patient isn't going to change their diet.

[–] albert180@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

That's why where I am from you usually need a clearance from a psychiatrist that there are no psychological issues in eating habits that would render that surgery useless, before the surgeon is allowed to do it

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