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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 1 week ago (5 children)

this is the second best time!

hopefully others also take note the real implications here...

this aint even about the Palestinian cause, as I have said this before, this is a class war. oligarchs are on irsaeli side and using their tech companies to suppress peasant dissent re genocide policy.

really showing their face here. when people tell you who they are, belie them.

it is only mater of time before they come for the rest of us.

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Unpopular opinion here but

The choice of M$ - made before the sanctions - was likely just a case of "nobody ever got fired for buying IBM"

I'm quite worried here actually - M$ did this not because they sided with Netanyahu or against Palestine, but because the US threw its might and compelled M$ to do so. The article says the chief had to move to Proton Mail which is a Swiss provider. While the Swiss have historically been independent and unyielding to foreign pressure, the US got them to agree to information sharing under FATCA (see https://international-adviser.com/us-and-switzerland-finally-seal-delayed-double-tax-deal/ and https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/switzerland-us-agree-exchange-financial-account-data-2024-06-27/ )

So, worried. How long before the US comes and tries to sanction Proton Mail? The free world needs to come up with a response to this and prevent the US from abusing it's power here. Perhaps the free world needs to sanction the US and kick them out of our international banking system before it's too late?

And in an alternate universe where Harris won and the US was using its sanction power responsibly, it's not that unreasonable to go with M$. As per https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/office365/servicedescriptions/office-365-platform-service-description/office-365-us-government/gcc-high-and-dod M$ actually has offerings tailored to highly classified and secure agencies. (Not that I'd go with M$. I'm just saying I get why a bunch of intelligent lawyers and prosecutors who aren't particularly tech savvy would say yes to M$.)

[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the reason they made the choice is exactly why I'm so mad.

I hear what you're saying. Just remember that Cygnus Solutions and Red Hat, both prominent commercial supporter of FOSS, were based in and headquartered in the US when they were independent companies. (Now they're both part of IBM.)

Even the Linux Foundation and the Free Software Foundation have to obey US sanctions - LF is based in San Francisco and the FSF is based in Boston.

Going FOSS is good, but the US abusing their sanctions powers is a different kettle of fish.

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