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The original was posted on /r/ukrainianconflict by /u/Mil_in_ua on 2025-05-18 08:46:56+00:00.

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[–] xyro@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Not sure what are the reasons to set up a new plant to produce outdated missiles that the Americans are about to discontinue production ?

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Still in heavy use in Ukraine when they can get ammo. And still very effective. USA won't release their latest designs for production in Europe or use in Ukraine.

[–] xyro@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Agreed, so why not built as advanced with European technology instead of old American tech ?

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This is one of the few weapons systems that Europeans don't have a decent analogue for. This is likely their short term plan while they develop something similar.

Perun did a decent overview of the capabilities that Europe has in house vs those that they must rely on the US for if you are interested in more details.

[–] xyro@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Make more sense thanks ! I'll take a look at the overview !

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 11 points 1 week ago

I imagine there's also an element of "what can we start building right now," as opposed to waiting a couple of years for R&D before setting up the production lines. A weapon system can be the most wonderful and powerful thing on paper but if you're under attack you can't deploy a piece of paper.

It's also nice that it turns out old American tech is perfectly capable of dominating Russia's current tech.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Quantity is also important. We can't just rely on a few high-tech systems, we need volumes of simpler equipment as well. These systems are good candidates for stuff we can mass produce right now.

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