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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago (16 children)

These are just Peltier cooling mechanisms highly refined it seems. If they've increased the efficiency enough that a full-sized refrigerator can keep food cool without refrigerant or a constant electrical signal, that's huge. AFAIK Peltier coolers still need some electrical input, though minimal.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I'm calling bullshit. There's no way a Peltier element can exceed the coefficient of performance of the refrigeration cycle, at an affordable price, without turning the room into a hothouse.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Umm, a typical refrigerator cranks out a lot of heat. Why would would this be less efficient than that?

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Check the efficiency of heat pumps.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 3 points 7 months ago

Read the paper, it's linked below. This is solid state, there's no refrigerant. Heat pumps are efficient, and this IS a heat pump, which is far more efficient than the old school heat pump that uses a 'refrigeration cycle'. I'm with you on being skeptical, and it may be a long time from 'discovery' to production of a saleable device, but this IS a legit significant breakthrough.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Modern refrigerators only generate heat through the capture by refrigerant inside and the pump circulating air. Without those, it's a different story. A Peltier cooling device works similarly, but I can see it being more efficient overall since you would know where the heat ends up. Think car radiator or CPU heatsink. Same basic concept.

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