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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

I will be the cpt obv

1/3 1/3

<=======]==o

2/3 2/3

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Ok but like how do you know it's 1/3 of the apple without any other tools.

[–] fargeol@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

You don't, you only know it's possible to do so thanks to the Ham sandwich theorem

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's funny is that you've actually stumbled onto an entire problem that's studied quite heavily. I remembered a Numberphile video about this. The problem is called "envy-free cake splitting". It's pretty straightforward. A split is envy-free if no one believes someone else got more than them. For three people this was figured out in 1960 and you can read about it here. It has been solved for N participants as well and you can read about the general problem here.

For two people, it's obvious. One splits and one chooses. The first person is incentivized to make it even because they don't know which they'll get.

I was going to give a summary of the process for three people but it's too much to explain succinctly. Just check the article I posted lol.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How is it obvious for two people, what if I have horrible manual dexterity and despite my best efforts, I slice the cake like 1/3 and 2/3, and the other person picks the bigger piece? I would very much envy the other piece

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your "cut" would not be complete until you believe you've made them 50/50.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

here we go infinite cuts

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 1 day ago

Then have them cut and you choose. Easy. Now they envy your piece and having better dexterity as well.

Insert Thanos balanced meme here.

[–] ghen@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cut first, choose last. It's as fair as you can get when eyeballing it

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Only works with two people. For three you use Selfridge-Conway procedure which uses up to five cuts.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

it is a magical long sword of apple slicing (+5 damage and THAC0 against apples, +1 otherwise)

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