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Meh. If he said he was proud of his wife for running a marathon despite the pain, it wouldn't be an issue. Same thing. As long as it was her choice, he can be proud of it.
It’s his daughter, but why be proud of someone for choosing unnecessary pain? If he were proud of her choosing natural birth because of the health benefits it imparts on the child fine, but it’s like saying I’m proud of you for running a marathon with a broken ankle. He’s not proud of the act, he’s proud of her suffering.
Woman athletes persevere with injuries and finish competitions all the time. I can't imagine shaming an athlete who chose to continue despite the pain.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/aug/13/rose-harvey-broken-leg-marathon-olympic-games-paris-2024
Duh, of course. But way to miss my point entirely.
I got the point and refuted it. You can't understand that some women will choose a challenge.
Joan Benoit competed in the 84 Olympics despite having knee surgery two weeks earlier. She chose the pain.
You’re still entirely missing the point. I hope for your sake you’re just attempting to be intentionally inflammatory, and not that you’re truly this ignorant.
Stop saying I'm missing the point and explain what you mean.
What is your point? What exactly am I missing?
She is UNNECESSARILY choosing pain for NO OTHER REASON than to be in pain (according to the info in the post - again, if she did it for baby’s health benefits this would not be my stance) and it’s being lauded.
I’m going to run a marathon with two good ankles. Great - it’s hard enough already. Oh wait, let me break my ankle with a hammer so people will be MORE proud of me for running it with smashed bones even though there is NO BENEFIT to adding that additional VOLUNTARY SELF-INFLICTED suffering.
Does that clarify it? Yes, if you have a goal and get injured, or have additional challenges and choose to push through them, that’s great, but to cause yourself pain and harm without reason or benefit should not be seen as something to be proud of.
Running a marathon ISN'T NECESSARY. RUNNING A MARATHON AFTER KNEE SURGERY ISN'T NECESSARY. This isn't hypothetical. I gave you two examples with links. Those runners chose pain for no reason. My daughter wants to run a marathon. I don't understand it. I weakly suggest she should go easier on herself. She is choosing pain for the personal challenge.
You aren't arguing in good faith.
You are STILL missing the point.
Let's apply your marathon analogy to this situation. Your daughter's signed up to run a trail marathon. There are comfortable, ergonomic, rugged footwear options available that are specifically and scientifically designed to cushion runners' feet, protect them from debris, pebbles, dirt etc. on the trail, provide them with extra grip, and reduce the strain of long-distance trail running. You can afford to get the best of the best of these shoes to make sure her running experience is as low-strain and as comfortable as it can be.
Your daughter has instead chosen to eschew all of these and run completely barefoot and unprotected on boiling hot asphalt and uneven trails strewn with sharp stones and animal droppings, because it's "natural". She has arrived at the finish line, limping with a twisted ankle and her soles bleeding all over the place from cuts and scratches galore.
For some reason you're trumpeting that you're proud of her for doing this and not opting for "the comfort of trail running shoes", when you have absolutely zero say or opinion in this situation.
The rest of us are looking at you like you've got two heads.
Do you understand now?
As I said in the very first post, "As long as it was her choice."
I can warn her to not do it. But if she chose to do it, I would still be proud of her. I support my children no matter what. Because what is stupid to you might be important to them. Your child isn't your possession to control.
Please stop having children. You’re a horrible person if you think celebrating needless pain, injury, and self-mutilation is somehow empowering and supportive. Get help. Now.