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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 15 points 15 hours ago (7 children)

If suburbs were developed to be people-centric, you really wouldn't need a car for 99% of your daily tasks. Most trips by car are very short, and can very easily be replaced by non-car modes of transportation.

The argument I usually hear from car-brains is that we have to pRoTeCt RuRaL cAr DrIvErs.

[–] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

Unless you’re transporting anything of a decent size which most people do frequently.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 8 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Define “decent size” and define “frequently”.

It's incredibly rare to see pickup trucks in the suburbs or city hauling stuff. Sure, there's that one guy who collects metal scraps once a week, but that's about it. He's using his truck to make a living, not to take his kid to school up the road.

[–] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Heavier or more awkward than you can comfortably carry. Weekly/monthly food shop, furniture, weekend getaways, etc.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Weekly/monthly food shop, furniture, weekend getaways, etc.

Food shopping doesn't require a large truck, or even a car.

I've carried 120lbs worth of groceries on an old bike + a lightweight trailer. It's easy to haul stuff on a regular bike, and if hauling large loads is something that you'd often do, a cargo bike makes a lot more sense than a car.

These days, since I don't support Walmart anymore, I can walk to my local grocery store a few times a week with a handcart, and get all the groceries I could need (even pulling 60lbs+ with a handcart is easy). I can also get exercise and connect with other humans at the same time! It's a better way of doing it.

Furniture? How often? Most people get stuff like that delivered for free, or might rent a small van for the odd time they want to pick up themselves.

Weekend getaway is understandable. I don't know anyone who goes on them every weekend. Maybe on a holiday weekend, but even then, owning a car for the odd getaway seems... wasteful.

The majority of people would still benefit from people-centric infrastructure, and an even greater number of people don't need anything bigger than a small car (if that).

And I say that acknowledging that North American cities aren't even designed with people in mind, so imagine how useless cars would be if they weren't the priority?

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 3 hours ago

Ah. See, you're able to ride a bike and not die. My community is not there yet.

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world -1 points 7 hours ago

This is privilege. Funny how so many in here would immediately bitch about others not recognizing it but in here it's totally acceptable to be completely obliviously.

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