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Bernie and AOC have a national platform, an energized base, and the infrastructure to gather small donations. Now they need winnable policies to back. It seems impossible in the MAGA-controlled government — unless they turn to state ballot initiatives.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Ah yes. The "I know you are but what am I" defense.

The only point in engaging with you is to put your cynicism and intellectual dishonesty on display, so I thank you for making it all the more apparent. You claim a cause, but effectively, are arguing for a BAU/ stay the course approach to change. I hope for all of our sake, yours keeps their opinions to themselves for the rest of time, as I advocated for previously.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

I think what actually happened here is projection. You identified that you are a cynic and decided to try to apply the label preemptively to others. But it's okay. We all handle things differently. Yours is to give up and point fingers at others for your own shortcomings. Some of us will continue to fight though. Good luck.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Right back to the "I know you are, but what am I?" approach to politics.

Peewee Herman would be proud.

You claim that "giving up", when I'm literally the one advocating for action, while you are advocating for "doing nothing different". Then when I point out your disgusting cynicism, you claim that I'm the cynic.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Your approach is to give up because changing the DNC from the inside is too hard and you think you tried once so you're giving up.

My approach is to take the hard road but also the only road that leads to actual change and not throwing away my vote while fascists claim uncontested rule for the next three decades because Democrats hurt your fee fees by not making Bernie president that one time.

That's why you're a cynic. You've decided to flip the board and not play anymore because you didn't get your way like a petulant toddler throwing a temper tantrum instead of pulling up your big boy pants and primarying the old guard Democrats so we can actually get shit done. And no they aren't just going to roll over and let you take their power so you have to fight for it.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are precisely why the Democrats have continuously gone backwards for a decade. Your rhetoric, your entire approach to politics: its why Democrats are a failed project. You are both the source and sink of the failure. You are why progressives need to leave the party. We'll have more power without the party, if you are going to be the way that you are. We'll have a better chance at moving Democrats without you in the room.

And I truly, and wholeheartedly, I appreciate you making it this obvious.

My approach is to take the hard road but also the road that leads to actual change and not throwing away my vote while fascists claim uncontested rule for the next three decades because Democrats hurt your fee fees by not making Bernie president that one time.

Bro you have no approach. You are just a clown with no agency, who needs the analgesic of "strategic voting" to wash their hands of the fact that they are part and parcel to why fascism has subsumed American politics.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Whatever you need to tell yourself to convince yourself you're not a cynic bud. Enjoy your delusions.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why would I trouble myself with what a spoiler like you thinks?

This is just putting you on display.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you for acknowledging how wrong you were. It shows growth on your part. It the future, just keep opinions like the ones you are sharing here to yourself.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pathetic is throwing an election because you couldn't find common cause with progressives. But again, I do want to thank you for at least recognizing that you need to do better. I appreciate that you'll be keeping your toxic perspective to yourself from now on.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Keep being cynical bud. Hopefully one day you'll feel something again and can take real action to solve problems. Blocking you now since I can only take so much second hand embarassment watching you squirm.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Hey no worries 😌 fam! I knew from the first response you gave you were operating in bad faith. Just needed the time to get you to put yourself on display, and you did so spectacularly.

The best bleach for the kind of toxicity you represent is sunlight, and there is no better way to do it, than to get you to do it yourself, which I was able to do here.

Everytime you do what you do, it gathers support to my cause, and you lose. If not for you letting the mask slip my task would be much harder. So like I said, I appreciate you and thank you🙏!

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