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I think it's probably more the geopolitics, Isreal is in deep with the Military Industrial Complex, the US Intelligence Agencies, and the future plans the US has for the Middle East (namely the agreement between the US, Israel, the Saudis and India to create a trade passage through the area).
But yeah, if you look at Peter Thiel's work with Israel's intelligence R&D company Carbyne you'll find US agencies near by...
...and lots of these shadey dealing go back generations and have been done by Republican and Democrat Presidents. I think it was Obama who agreed to give Israel 38 billion to buy US weapons - an agreement which basically made the US the sole external supplier for their munitions.
I suppose beyond that it's historical, religious, and racial... But there's more to it than that.
You don't need Israel for a trade passage. The US is trying to pivot away from the region to focus on East Asia, where China is. The US no longer needs the Middle East for strategic reasons as the US has developed its own Oil and Gas resources.
Israel is a liability for the US geopolitically. Of course there is a strong Israeli lobby and there is the intelligence ties, surveillance tech and the like. However i think this is more based on blackmail than a genuine need for the US to get this tech from Israel. The father of Ghislaine Maxwell, who ran the child rape circle with Epstein, had ties to Mossad and other intelligence agencies. It is quite plausible that Mossad has a lot of material on the people involved.
I don’t know if the blackmail argument even works. Because we live in a “post-truth era” where no one cares if a politician did something horrible, they just move on or get convinced otherwise.
I feel like every argument for supporting Israel is a little flimsy. It just boggles the mind why anyone wants to support such a shitty little country that exclusively does the absolute worst