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Not sure why I tried to do that. I knew when I did it that it wouldn't work and I was kicking my self for being stupid when the prompt showed up asking me to confirm that I wanted to download to that location. My jaw hit the metaphorical floor!

Now I'm wondering what other neat tricks I've missed over the years!

To be clear this is in Firefox on NixOS with the KDE6 desktop environment. No clue if it works on other browsers, DEs, or OSs.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (10 children)

See....this is a small example of what I mean when I say that Linux needs to be naturally intuitive to the human brain on where/how things work.

You didn't even know this was a thing, but your human brain just said "This download goes HERE!" and so it was.

In general, Linux lacks this. This is a great example of Linux doing it right, and it makes me want to try KDE now.

I just wish there was an all in one program manager.

Did you install a program with terminal? You can manage it with program manager. Did you install a flatpak? You can manage it with program manager. Did you install an AppImage? You can manage it with program manager. Did you download a snap? ......go fuck yourself.

Jokes about controlling corporations aside, installing and managing programs on Linux is a NIGHTMARE.

I want to install 7zip. I go online, find the terminal command, I install it....and terminal tells me it's already installed on the latest version.

It's not in my start menu. I don't know what linux's equivilant of "C/Windows/Program Filesx86/" would be. I have no idea where this program is, or how to launch it. So I search for it within my start menu. It finds a txt file, and thats it.

This story doesn't have a current happy ending. I still know it's installed, but I don't know how to find it, and I don't know how to run it. It also makes me wonder what other programs I have installed that I don't know about.

And yes, I conceed that this is very much a "me" problem. But linux was sold to me on the idea of "you can customize it to work however you want it to run!"

Then he showed me his windows and said "see how they wiggle? Thats not standard. I customized it to do that. You don't have to have that, but you can if you want.

I don't want jello windows. I want all my programs all in one place, and all in the start menu, listed alphabetically. I want a center where I can push a button to update them, or mod them, or uninstall them, or even open them (if for some reason the start menu wasn't working for some reason). I want it all in one centralized manager app. Call it whatever the fuck you want. But it should handle wine exe installs, flatpaks, sudo apt-get install, AppImages, and.....sigh, yes, even snaps. If you can install it, this manager should handle it, including being able to click a checkbox that says "add to start menu". You can uncheck it if for some reason you DON'T want a program on your start menu, but it should give you the option.

Yes I just ranted about Linux. I'm having Windows as an option stripped away from me, because I don't support corporate spyware. I don't support Apple either. But I don't understand a lot of Linux. I don't get the structure.

But with this post, it's easy. Drag, and drop to the place. Thing works. Human happy! That's how Linux grows. Make it idiot friendly. Or at least make a distro that is. I'm on ZorinOS, which is SUPPOSED to be beginner friendly. I can tell you it is NOT. But I've tweaked it so much over 6 months, that this is what I'm using now. Even though I'm still clueless.

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

KDE’s Discover pretty much does what you want in terms of being an all-in-one GUI package manager. If you're comfortable with the terminal, topgrade can upgrade pretty much everything and offers great flexibility is terms of configuration.

Also, a good rule of thumb is that, if you want GUI programs thats show up in “start menu”, search specifically for GUI programs. In this case, that would be something like Peazip. In KDE, the file manager Dolphin can extract stuff for you using Ark, which is installed by default.

I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect CLI programs to appear in the “start menu” because they are usually intended to be launched from the terminal.

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