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Southern Baptists Vote to Further Expand Restrictions on Women as Leaders (www.nytimes.com)

submitted 2 years ago by deacon@lemmy.world to c/news@beehaw.org

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Yikes. There is quite a pattern developing in the religious right, in the US at least. We are turning back the clock folks.

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[–] 10A@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (35 children)

Actual Christian here. This decision is not extreme, whatsoever, though I get that it appears extreme to non-believers and feminists. The thing to understand here is that Christians follow the Bible. And conversely, those who do not follow the Bible are not Christian. So let's take a look at a relevant Bible passage:

Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

(1 Timothy 2:11-12)

Now that's the word of God. It's eternal, unchanging, and dictates how He wills us to live.

It's definitely out-of-step with modern secular culture, and that's a very good thing from the Christian perspective. We are God's peculiar people (Titus 2:11-15).

[–] spaceghoti@beehaw.org 13 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Actual ex-Christian here.

The concept that you seem to be failing to grasp -- and I can't blame you because it escaped me as a Christian as well -- is that these are rules that you are welcome to follow. Your religion tells you what you can and can't do. You can make that choice. The problem comes when you try to apply that to anyone else who doesn't accept it. Your religion's rules don't apply to me, because I'm not part of your religion.

I'm willing to coexist with Christians. But that coexistence has to go both ways.

[–] 10A@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

I was raised an atheist and didn't find Christ until adulthood, so I do grasp that it's all voluntary. I also recognize that you can't force anyone to be Christian against their will.

So on those points we agree. Where we differ is that I firmly believe my God is your God, and neither of us could ever change that, no matter how much we may want to. Christ came to save all people, with a focus on those who need it most. So yes, Christianity does apply to you, even though you don't want it to.

I fully understand your "get off my back" perspective, honestly. Telling someone else how to think or what to do is a remarkably terrible way to make friends. I'm not here to be a jerk. Promise. I know you're going to do what you're going to do, irrespective of me. I only want to take every chance I can get to give testimony of my own experiences with God, and to follow the Great Commission for anyone who actually cares to let a seed get planted.

So does that mean we can coexist? I certainly hope so, but I recognize you may think I'm overbearing.

[–] rs5th@lemmy.scottlabs.io 7 points 2 years ago

Christianity does apply to you, even though you don’t want it to.

No wonder a bunch of you lot have trouble understanding consent.

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