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Coming even from from an anarchist (i.e. someone who is also distrustful of government, media, etc), this type of stuff makes you guys sound crazy. In 2023 saying Tiananmen Square massacre never happened is an extraordinary claim and therefore is going to require extraordinary evidence for effective persuasion. You behave like Chinese state apologists to most people.
Now maybe you're right, TBH I can't claim to know for certain, but if you actually want to convince people you need to do more than point to documents I have no more reason to believe than the pictures and documents I've already seen. Why should I believe your sources vs what as far as I can tell is the rest of the academic world that doesn't agree with you? Especially when it seems apparent that current Chinese leadership has an obvious authoritarian quality and ends justify the means type of attitude. You may deny this but all it takes for me to believe it is to see the fear in the faces of Chinese people when asked certain questions.
You got the concept completely backwards. The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim, not on others to disprove.
Saying that soldiers gunned down a bunch of unarmed protestors is the extraordinary claim here, and it's the one that lacks evidence. A picture of bicycles and of one man standing in front of a tank is not evidence of a massacre. If there's better evidence out there then please provide it.
I would say the more extraordinary of these claims is the one believed by a tiny subset of the western world (at least when these claims are made in the western world).
A bunch of people on Lemmy pointing me to likely auth-communist propaganda is no different to me than a bunch of Christians pointing me to the bible. Why would I believe your websites any more than I believe the bible, or CNN?
It doesn't matter how many westerners do or don't believe something. A claim without evidence can be dismissed without evidence regardless.
Where are the piles of corpses that the PLA supposedly created that day? Please show me.