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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The solution isn’t speed limit enforcement, it is road design.

I would generally agree with this sentiment. However, the behaviour of drivers these days goes well beyond road design. It's rabid entitlement, often aggressively so.

As an example, we design intersections so that vehicles can STOP and then proceed when safe. However, I very frequently see people ignoring stop signs and red lights. We NEED enforcement here, and no amount of acceptable* design will help.

*by acceptable, I mean something that NIMBYs won't complain about... which is often the biggest barrier to road design intended to keep speeds low or roads safe for other users.

And yes, road design helps. But we need to also make sure that those who ignore road design and legal speed limits are fined, and that's what speed cameras do - by the tens of thousands per location. Have them pay for better road design 🤭

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Stop signs should generally be replaced with roundabouts and speed tables. Stop signs that get ignored are a great example of design not matching needs.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You should see how drivers navigate roundabouts around here 😂😂

And NIMBYs are against them, too!

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago

If people are bad at driving, then you need more non-driving options so they don't have to drive.

I've got a friend in the Toronto area who is a terrible driver, knows she's a terrible driver, and is insured at terrible driver rates; but there's just no practical alternative for her.