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Newly uncovered metadata reveals that nearly three minutes of footage were cut from what the US Department of Justice and Federal Bureau of Investigation described as “full raw” surveillance video from the only functioning camera near Jeffrey Epstein’s prison cell the night before he was found dead. The video was released last week as part of the Trump administration’s commitment to fully investigate Epstein’s 2019 death but instead has raised new questions about how the footage was edited and assembled.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 150 points 1 week ago (30 children)

That makes a bit more sense. one minute was not quite enough to get in, string up a noose, put him in the noose, and get out; never mind the presumed struggle and/or drugging or whatever.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (18 children)

I haven't really looked much into the layout or video (I tend to not like staring at corpses OR rapists), but assuming it is of the cell itself or the door right outside?

A minute is more than enough time for a couple of blokes to get in, grab someone, put them in a blood choke, loop the noose, throw it, and tie a super quick knot. Hollywood likes people to think you can struggle against getting choked. An air choke where your oxygen supply is cut off? Sure, those can take a minute or two to kill someone. A blood choke where you put pressure on the artery? They are unconscious in less than 10 seconds (sometimes almost instantaneously) and they aren't going to wake up the moment you release. Similarly, ask any climber to tie a quick figure eight (or bowline if they are old or european) and they can do that blindfolded, in the rain, in like 10 seconds.

So assuming even two killers? Yeah, a minute is more than enough time.

That isn't to say that multiple minutes is not more likely. But the article has many caveats for why that isn't necessarily the case (overlap, basically) and there is already a massive push by fascists to somehow spin all of this as being Obama's fault. So be wary of easy gotchas that they can introduce and disprove.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (10 children)

They are unconscious in less than 10 seconds (sometimes almost instantaneously) and they aren’t going to wake up the moment you release. Similarly, ask any climber to tie a quick figure eight (or bowline if they are old or european) and they can do that blindfolded, in the rain, in like 10 seconds.

So assuming even two killers? Yeah, a minute is more than enough time.

You, eh, ever try to lift 150-200 pounds of dead weight? while trying to make it look like that dead weight did it himself?

it's not just the fight. It's not just the struggle. just for the record the camera was in the hallway outside and not in the room. a minute is barely enough time to get in, kill him, and get out.

To also then string him up, and remove whatever you need to, to make it look like suicide? three minutes is pushing it, even with 2 guys- and remember, the more guys you add the more potential you have for some one talking.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If it was a bit under three consecutive minutes, it would be tough. If they had two removed periods of nearly 1:30 that is more than enough time for like 20 people to move without seeing it on camera. And when the cell is closed I assume we cant see anything inside the cell? Since it was supposed to have its own camera on the inside anyways

Most indoor cameras cover narrow enough spaces that a person could enter or exit it in like 1 second walking at an average pace

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

for the record, it's probably not 20 goons. that's a lot of mouths needing silencing.

The other thing is that halways was in view of the other cells. they wouldn't necessarily be rushing; at least not more than what might be 'normal'.

This whole thing gets back to, the more you try to cover something up, the harder it becomes to cover that something up. Mistakes happen. This video is probably a mistake.

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