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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

Cars are actually sub-par for long distance travel. They have to stop to refuel every few hundred miles, require horrifyingly expensive highway infrastructure to travel at speed, have to manually negotiate all intersections / exchanges, and their individualized form factor multiplies the maintenance upkeep required for that sort of mileage. Trains and planes both kick their ass at distance travel in different ways.

What cars are actually superior at is medium to short distance adhoc hauling trips at medium speeds on the edges of a transportation system. Rural work and visits, last mile drop-offs, back country mobility.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What cars are actually superior at is medium to short distance adhoc hauling trips at medium speeds on the edges of a transportation system

Motorcycles/scooters. You can get way more out of limited road infrastructure and are much more flexible when it comes to obstacles such as traffic.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Ah, but in a world where the optimal vehicle is utilized for each trip, there isn't much traffic :P Also they can't haul much. Honestly I do feel like I want to embrace motos but in a system where the best vehicle for a given trip is always available I suspect they would be largely displaced by bicycles and ebikes.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

they can’t haul much

Idk, I've seen a family of 5 with a dog, construction workers hauling 30 foot rebar, and dudes with like 200 lbs of plywood, in like an aframe around the bike. A hero of a construction worker with a 20 year old Ship of Thesisus'd Honda Winner probably hauls more stuff per year than your average GMC Canyon.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

Lol... OK maybe replace "can" with "should".

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